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Who Is on the Dodgers Mt. Rushmore ?

                                                Got to thinking about this topic the other day. But I doubt you could just pick four.  And with all the history of this team you would have to separate LA from Brooklyn because they have played as long in each city equally. To really do each justice, you would need to pick a team out of players from both cities. A Brooklyn team, and an LA team.  Picking just the four greatest would be almost impossible. 

                                               If you did only pick four, one of them would not be a player. No person had more impact on the Dodgers in their long history than Vin Scully. 67 years as a broadcaster for the Dodgers plus all the work he did for network TV. He even called Larsen’s perfect game in the World Series. Scully called 19 no-hitters. He also called three perfect games. To tell you the truth, I could not pick just four.  Most impactful four would be Scully, Robinson, Valenzuela and Koufax. Robinson and Valenzuela for their cultural impact and Koufax because of his impact imbedding baseball in Los Angeles. He was the first true LA superstar. 

                                              But I digress. So, let’s pick 8 position players, 2 starting pitchers, a lefty and a righty, and 1 closer.  Then a utility guy from each city. 12 players you feel are the best both cities had to offer.  My picks:

                                              Catcher: Brooklyn, Roy Campanella. Outstanding defensively, 3 MVP awards, HOF, all-time Dodger HR leader for catchers. Member of first and only Brooklyn Championship team.  LA, tough choice, but I go with Mike Scioscia. Caught more games than any other catcher in Dodger history. One of the best plate blockers in the game. Member of the 1988 World Championship team, 4th on the all-time defensive WAR list for LA. Not the hitter Piazza was, no catcher in their history has been. But played his entire career, like Campy, as a Dodger. 

                                             First Base: Brooklyn, Gil Hodges. Three-time gold glove winner. Top 10 in Dodger history in most offensive categories. HOF, 2-time World Champion, 55-59, 2nd to Duke Snider in all-time HR’s. In fact, he and Duke the only 2 players with 300 plus homers as a Dodger. Second to Snider on the all-time RBI list. One of only 4 Dodgers to drive in more than 1000 runs. Furillo and Wheat are the other two.  LA., this position is a tie. Steve Garvey and Eric Karros. Karros is the all-time LA Dodger leader in homers. But Garvey has an MVP award and participated in four World Series. Both finished their careers elsewhere. Garvey was a gold glove first baseman, but they are very close in most offensive stats. Garvey had a higher BA with LA. 

                                           Second Base: Brooklyn, no contest, Jackie Robinson. HOF, ROY, broke the color barrier in MLB. Member of six NL champs and the 55 World Champs. NL MVP in 1949. Stole home 19 times including a huge steal of home in the World Series. LA. Davey Lopes. Lopes was a converted outfielder and was part of what was known as “The Infield.: Along with Ron Cey, Bill Russell and Steve Garvey, they were together as a unit longer than any infield in MLB history. Second to Maury Wills on the Dodgers all-time stolen base list. Led NL in steals twice. 

                                           Third Base: Brooklyn, not many players played third for more than a few years when the team was in Brooklyn. I have to go with maybe the best glove man they had in Brooklyn, Billy Cox. Cox played 7 years with the Dodgers and was part of three NL Championship teams. 49-52-53. He was a career .262 hitter, but he was excellent on defense. He even finished 23rd in the MVP voting in 1953. LA. The Penguin, Ron Cey has to be the choice here. Ron was a power hitter and a very good fielder. He played on six All-Star teams and had 228 HR”s while a Dodger. He finished his career with 316 HR’s. He was in double figures in homers 14 consecutive years, and he drove in 100 or more runs twice. He also had one of the best Aprils in Dodger history, driving in 29 runs. 

                                          Shortstop: Brooklyn, no contest, Pee Wee Reese. Reese was a Kentucky native, and was called the Little Colonel by some, and just the captain by others. Pee Wee was a good hitter, and one of the better SS in the league for many years. He lost 3 seasons to WWII, but he played for the Dodgers for 16 years. Only Bill Russell and Zack Wheat played longer. Reese was an All-Star 10 times. He is a Hall of Famer and his #1 is retired by the Dodgers. LA, well I debated this for a while, then I went with the player who made the most impact, Maury Wills. Wills joined the team in 59 because Don Zimmer was having an awful year. He did not really set the world on fire, but he brought speed to a lumbering veteran team. He would come into his own in 1962 when he became the first MLB player to steal 100 bases or more. He earned a MVP award that season. Wills was part of 3 WS champs, and even after being banished to Pittsburgh, he returned a couple years later and finished his career with the Dodgers. Was a roving instructor in the organization for many years. 

                                        Left Field: Brooklyn, again, no contest. During the Boys of Summer years, they had many leftfielders since they could never really find a full-time guy. Amoros, Gilliam, Robinson, Pafko, and many others spent time there during that period. But back in the early 1900’s, Zack Wheat was the man. Wheat was considered a power hitter in his day, but he never hit more than 16. In fact, he hit in double figures just 4 times in his career. He drove in 100 or more runs only twice. But he could hit. He is in the top 10 in many of the Dodgers all-time offensive stats. A career .317 hitter. He had 2804 hits in his 18 years in Brooklyn. Zack entered the Hall in 1959. He was also one of the better defensive outfielders in his day. LA, this is a little tougher than Wheat. But I have to go with Dusty Baker. Dusty played his best ball as a Dodger. Very good defensively and added a solid bat to the team after the trade. Part of three pennant winners and one championship team. Honorable mention would go to Tommy Davis, who won 2 batting titles, but had his LA career cut short by his injury. And Wally Moon, who made the Moon Shot a household word. 

                                     Center Field: Brooklyn, Duke Snider, he still is the all-time leader in home runs, offensive WAR, RBIs, extra base hits, intentional base on balls, and four categories I have never heard of, Base-Out Runs Added, Win Probability Added, Situational Wins Added and Championship WPA. All of that available on Baseball reference. Duke was an excellent outfielder with a very good arm. He went in the Hall in 1980. He is second to Pee Wee in offensive WAR. He hit 11 homers in World Series play and is the Dodger leader in that stat. His #4 is retired. LA, based on the amount of time he spent with the Dodgers, it would have to be Willie Davis. Willie was one of the fastest players I have ever seen. He had some power and could cover a lot of ground. Was a member of the 63 and 65 Championship teams. The only real tarnish to his legacy was an awful 3 error game in the 66 series.  Fell on hard times in retirement. 

                                    Right Field: Brooklyn, only a few choices, but it has to be Carl Furillo. A very underrated player. Had a cannon for an arm and was a very good hitter. Drove in over 1000 runs in his career and won a batting title in 1953. An integral piece of the Boys of Summer. Had two important hits in the 1959 run to the title. His walk off single against the Braves, and a run scoring single in the World Series with the Sox. Member of the 55 and 59 Champs. Honorable mention would go to Babe Herman, a great hitter, and mediocre defender who still has the record for the highest single season BA in Dodger history, .393 in 1930. LA. This one is hard. No player in LA history has started at the position more than 5 years in a row, and no one has played it more than six on opening day. So, I have to go with the player who stayed with the Dodgers the longest, Andre Ethier. Captain Clutch. Ethier was acquired in a trade with the A’s, but he spent his entire MLB career as a Dodger. One year he had 6 walk off hits. He was a solid hitter whose best season was 2009. Ethier still has ties to the Dodgers and can be seen at Dodger Stadium during the year. 

                                    Utility: Brooklyn-LA, Jim Gilliam was a jack of all trades. He played the outfield, second and third base and was the # 2 hitter behind Wills while the team was in LA. He was the ROY in 1953 and after his playing days, he was a Dodger coach. His sudden death in 1978 was the catalyst for the team dedicating the World Series in his memory. He and Fernando the only two non-hall of fame players to have their numbers retired. He played 5 years in Brooklyn, and 12 in LA. Honorable mention, Kike and Taylor. Both have been very valuable pieces in the Dodgers current run of excellence. 

                                   Starting Pitchers: Brooklyn, the RHP is Dazzy Vance.  All time Brooklyn wins leader with 190. Did not pitch regularly in the majors until he was 30 and pitched until he was 44. Hall of Famer, he was known for his fastball. The lefty would be Nap Rucker. Because Brooklyn was so bad during his career, he does not have a lot of wins, he finished exactly at 134-134. But his career ERA, 2.42. He only had one season when his ERA was above 3. No other Brooklyn lefty comes close. LA: This will always be one of the more debated positions. Pitching has been a Dodger strength most of their time in LA. If you go by stats, it’s Kershaw-Sutton.  I have seen them all. My choice comes from seeing these guys pitch in the highest leverage conditions. So, my two are Koufax and Drysdale. Both were pivotable members of three World Champs. But Sandy has four rings and Big D 3. Sandy was a rookie on the 55 team and did not pitch in the series. He did not pitch in the 56 series either. He lost his only game in 59. But he pitched the clincher in two WS wins, 63-65. In 65 he did it on 2 days rest. He has 3 Cy Youngs, won the ERA award 5 years in a row. He might have won another Cy Young in 64, but an injury and the Dodgers bad year dropped him to 3rd in the voting. He won the MVP in 1963 and finished second in the voting in 65-66. 4 no-hitters including a perfect game. He would be my choice in any must win game. As for Big D, he was something that neither Sutton or Orel, two of the better LA right handers, ever were. Intimidating. He also won a Cy Young in 1962 and was the Dodgers opening day starter 7 times. He held the scoreless inning record until Hershiser broke it. Both are in the Hall and their numbers are retired. Kershaw has many of the career records, and if he returns next season, he will probably become the only Dodger pitcher to record 3000 Ks as a Dodger. My choice of Koufax over Kersh is more about Koufax’s big game performances, than it is about their overall careers. CK has 3 Cy Youngs and an MVP too. This generation would no doubt pick him over Sandy.

                                Closers did not become a thing until the sixties. Saves was not a stat until 1969 when Dodger pitcher, Bill Singer recorded the first official save. Since then, baseball reference and other stat sites have gone back and credited former pitchers with saves.  In Brooklyn, probably the most prolific closer was Clem Labine, who also started many times. Including a couple of important World Series games. In LA, it has to be Kenley Jansen. LA career saves leader, much vilified his last few years in LA as being unreliable, rebuilt his rep in Boston. But Eric Gagne had 88 consecutive games without a blown save. 

                              Now to the Mt. Rushmore stuff. If I had to pick 4 men to put on a Dodgers Mt. Rushmore, to me, it would be the men who made the most impact, not just necessarily on the field. Because of that, my four would be Vin Scully, Walter O’Malley, Jackie Robinson and Fernando Valenzuela.  Scully is obvious, as is Jackie. Valenzuela simply because he impacted the way the Latin community viewed the Dodgers at the time. He got the Latin community involved in Dodger baseball and is the catalyst for the vast base of Latino fans in Los Angeles. O’Malley many might disagree with, but had he not moved the team from Brooklyn when he did, and remember, he had plans to build a state-of-the-art ballpark in Brooklyn, who knows how long it would have taken for LA to get MLB? And he had to convince another owner, Horace Stoneham, to make the move with him. Okay, there are my picks, let’s hear yours. 

Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear

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OhioDodger

Wow, great article Bear. What about Branch Rickey??

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OhioDodger

I will go with your Mt Rushmore picks Bear. Now lets talk positioning.

Robinson in Washington’s place.
Vin in Lincoln’s place.
Valenzuela in Jefferson’s place.
O’Malley in Roosevelt’s place.

Duke Not Snider

Replace O’Malley with Rickey– and put him in Lincoln’s place–and that would fit American history quite well.
I like Vin in Jefferson’s spot. Two ginger wordsmiths.

Duke Not Snider

It was Branch Rickey who made serious history. How many more years would have passed before the color barrier would have been broken?
Odds are, it would have been broken by another team, not the Dodgers. The courage shown by both Jackie and Rickey is a point of pride that only Dodgers fans can share. (What did the Giants or Yankees ever do to advance social justice?)
O’Malley was a hero to LA but ultimately a villain to Brooklyn.
Sticking just to players, my Rushmore would be Jackie, Sandy, Campanella and Fernando. They weren’t just great players, but lived stories that resonate beyond the playing field.
Non-players: Vin, Branch Rickey, O’Malley and Al Campanis–oops, I mean, Lasorda.
By the way, I think it’s pretty cool that Buehler decided to wear a Hershiser jersey to today’s parade and celebration.
Nice tip of the cap, or jersey, to a past WS hero.

Badger

👍

Bluto

On field: Jackie R, Koufax, Kershaw, Snider

Off field: Alston,Scully, Rickey and Walter

how long until Ohtani replaces Snider?!?!?

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OhioDodger

I like it.

John

Love the article. I agree with your Brooklyn team with a HM to Pete Reiser. I’d still go with your outfield. Pitching again I’d go with your selection but HM to Preacher Roe.

In Los Angeles, I’d go with your outfield again with a HM to Pedro Guerrero in the outfield. He had an iron skillet for a glove but when he was at bat one was confident that the ball was going to be hit hard somewhere.

In the infield it’s hard to argue against Cey. A footnote, the Beltre trade was awful and stupid. Beltre was coming off a great season. He should have been a career long Dodger. To me letting him go was as bad as the Pedro Martinez debacle only Beltran was proven so there isn’t any excuse. At shortstop Wills is hard to argue but Bill Russell was a mainstay for many years, a model of consistency. If Seager wasn’t greedy he would be the hands down selection. I would agree that Lopes has to take the top prize. At first, I’m going to agree with the tie, because I want to use it later. The old saying “ties are like kissing your sister.” But I need a defense for later.

Catcher I’m going with John Roseboro. His stats don’t match up, but his intangibles put him on top for me. I realize this could be well disputed.

LA pitching: Right-handed starter I’d agree with your selection of Drysdale. Sutton would be a very close second. Left-handed starter no way do I leave either Koufax or Kershaw off the team, it’s not possible to pick between the two. I’d love to go with Gagne, but he cheated so I’ll agree with Jensen. Utility through longevity Taylor has to get the nod.

My manager: DAVE ROBERTS

Mt. Rushmore, Vin, Jackie, Sandy and Clayton.

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Singing the Blue

I believe you meant to say Beltre, not Beltran, John.

Ironic since Beltran was one of the ring leaders of the Houston cheating scandal.

John

Your absolutely correct. My bad!!

Keith

Thanks bear, a lot of thoughtful stuff there especially about the Brooklyn side. I was born after they came to LA so all I know about the Brooklyn Dodgers is what I’ve read and checking out what some of you guys have to say about them.

food for thought Bear, I see why these guys are on the list, with the longevity of their careers it makes sense. This is in no way taking away from the research, thought and time you’ve put in this, and not meant to be negative, but I wonder what a list would look like of players that had the biggest impact over their contracts, like say Kirk Gibson vs Willie Davis, or Beltre over Cey, or Kershaw in his prime vs anyone, not named Sandy. Could Greenes 5 years in RF compare?

Ive read before about you asking for ideas for articles so I thought I would throw it out there.

Make Mine Blue

Interesting topic but almost impossible to pick the right players. Different eras had different issues that affect the evaluation of players: deadball era, live ball era, war era, huge ballparks, small ballparks, expanded playoffs, DH era, tinkering with rules to shorten games, etc, etc, etc. So over all the generations of baseball there have been great players making great plays and contributions, impossible to access who is the greatest player and/or Dodgers player. So I will take in what you all say and enjoy the comments.

philjones

What a fun article Bear. Since you are the Man of Dodger History, I’m not qualified to contest any of your picks. Good, solid reasons for all of your selections.
Maybe during the update of Mt. Rushmore they can add big speakers and play Vinny’s calls, echoing from the mountain?

Bear, I really want to thank you and Jeff D. for what you both do on this site. This site is a big part of most of our days during the season. Both of you do great work, in different areas and provide terrific information. Jeff D. has created the most accommodating place to share baseball knowledge, ideas and opinions.

Besides you two I enjoy most of the posters here who bring baseball knowledge and solid opinions, especially tedraymond, Badger, Cassidy, Fred, Watford Dodger, Ohio Dodger, Duke Not Snyder and many more to numerous to add.

I know I don’t express my gratitude enough so I want to take the opportunity to do it now.

I’m still celebrating the WIN and plan to take some time to chill out and let this long journey soak in. I’m not much of a GM anyway. My comments are more suited to how to play the game the right way, comments from a player and coach’s perspective, in-game comments, tidbits and the pointing out the subtleties of the game.
I’m relaxing in sunny Arizona for the winter, by the pool with a big fat smile on my face.

Badger

Relaxing in sunny Arizona. May I ask where?

philjones

Badger – I’m in west Phoenix a couple miles from the State Farm Stadium and Camelback Ranch. a mile west of the 101 on Indian School rd

Dionysus

John Shelby, Matt Luke, Onan Masaoka & Rick Dempsey

Bobby

you’re crazy. Why would you have Matt Luke over Jody Reed!

Duke Not Snider

No Grabarkewitz?

Singing the Blue

Billy G! Not too many of us remember he even existed.

Jeff Dominique

What about Mark Grudzielanek?

Sam Oyed

Bill Sudakis

Scott Andes

FP Santangelo….😆

Badger

Zack Wheat, Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, Clayton Kershaw

Finalists: Campanella, Snider, Reese

Scully, O’Malley, Alston and Lasorda all deserve their own mountain.

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Keith

just heard Snell opted out

Badger

He was good in ‘23. Not so much this year.

Singing the Blue

Actually, once he got straightened out after having no Spring Training he was pretty spectacular.

Started out horribly, then got injured but once he got back from the IL in July he pitched 80 innings with 114 strike outs and a 1.23 ERA.

I’m guessing he signs by January this year.

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Badger

Yeah, I looked at his stats. He had a good July/August. He’s 32. He was injured. He will sign with some team. His agent is Boras. It won’t be us.

Singing the Blue

You guys are nuts. Do you realize how hard it will be to carve new faces in the mountain? Let’s just go with the ones already there.

Shortstop George Washington
First Baseman Abe Lincoln
Catcher Teddy Roosevelt
Center Fielder Tommy Jefferson

Duke Not Snider

Pretty good lineup….
I’d put FDR on the mound, wheeling and dealing the New Deal…
Obama can play LF, with Reagan in RF
Third base? I’d go with Ike.
Second base to Adams, the essential second POTUS.
Closer: Ulysses S. Grant.

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Singing the Blue

Someone posted these numbers to Twitter, courtesy of Spotrac:

Total days missed due to injury for a World Series champ, last 10 years:

2015 – 827
2016 – 1162
2017 – 837
2018 – 1225
2019 – 1110
2020 – 248
2021 – 1286
2022 – 863
2023 – 1150
2024 – 2158



Jeff Dominique

Yeah, I think Roberts was masterful this year.

Badger

“I think Roberts was masterful this year”

As do I.

Keith

That is a crazy number, almost double of any other champ.

Jeff Dominique

I do not have a difference of opinion for any of the Brooklyn selections. I did not see any of them play while they were in Brooklyn.

In LA: 

Catcher – I am going with John Roseboro over Mike Scioscia. Roseboro played 11 years for the Dodgers while Sosh played 13. Roseboro – 3 X WS, 6 X All Star, 2 X GG. Scioscia – 2X AS, 2 X WS. Both were receivers to some great pitchers.

1B – I am going with Steve Garvey. Garvey played 14 years with LAD (2,332 games) while Karros played 12 years (1,601 games). Garvey batted .301/.337/.459/.796) while Karros batted .268/.325/.457/.782. Karros was never an All Star. Garvey was NL MVP, a 9 X All Star (with LAD), 2 X All Star MVP, 6 season with 200 hits, 5 X top 10 NL MVP (including the one year he did win it), and a Clemente Award winner. He once played in 1,207 consecutive games (1,107 for LAD).

2B – Personal choice. I was never a Davey Lopes fan. So I am going with Steve Sax.

3B – Agree on Ron Cey

SS – Agree on Maury Wills, although Bill Russell was a personal favorite.

LF – Dusty Baker batted .281/.343/.437/.780 while Tommy Davis batted .304/.338/.444/.779. Davis and Baker each won a WS. Davis won 2 batting championships and 3X All Star. Baker was a 2 X All Star, NLCS MVP, and a GG. For me the GG and the NLCS MVP gives Dusty Baker the edge.

CF – Agree with Willie Davis and his 14 years as a LAD. He was a 2X All Star, 3 X GG, and 2 X WS. My honorable mention is Rick Monday. It was his HR off Steve Rogers in the 9th inning of the 1981 NLCS to propel LAD into the WS, and his heroics with the American Flag.

RF – I agree that Andre Ethier is the choice. He was also a personal favorite. 12 years as a LAD. 2 X All Star, 1 X GG, and 1 X SS. But consideration also has to go to Reggie Smith.

Utility – Jim Gilliam is the only choice

SP – I agree on Sandy Koufax and Don Drysdale.

RP – I agree on Kenley Jansen.

Keith

Hey shouldn’t Manny Mota get an honorable mention for all of those pinch hits he got over the years.

Badger

Good choices Jeff. Only LA changes things.

I think I might include Piazza, Lopes and Betts. Aa a kid I really liked Jim Gilliam and Charlie Neal. Both were All Stars in ‘59, the first year I was a Dodger fan. I know they weren’t all time greats by most standards, but in my memory they certainly were.

Pitchers? Don Sutton gets an honorable mention. I like Drysdale, a lot, but not over Kershaw.

Interesting, thought provoking topic.

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Jeff Dominique

Clayton Kershaw is having surgery on his left big toe and his left knee meniscus. He not only had bone spurs in his big left toe but he also has a ruptured plantar plate. He missed time this year due to bone spurs in his left big toe, but he also has a ruptured plantar plate that needs repair. The knee surgery will be to correct a torn meniscus.. His return timeline is unclear at this point.

Keith

All we ever heard about was Claytons toe, the Dodgers are very good at keeping things inside the organization. I guess you need a secret decoder ring to truly know what’s going on with the Dodgers.

Duke Not Snider

That’s a lot of stuff!
Kersh will be back at some point… and then something else will happen.
I wonder if Shohei really needs surgery.

Badger

Jeff, would Kershaw accept a bullpen role? I believe he put his energy and focus into it he could be great down there. I feel the same way about Gonsolin and May.

Jeff Dominique

I don’t think Kershaw would accept a bullpen role. It’s not ego, but comfort. Well maybe some ego. He is team first. But will teams ask Scherzer, Verlander, deGrom to move to the pen? Playoffs sure, but not regular season.

IMO May is already headed to the bullpen. He has no clue how to slow it down. If the Dodgers do not re-sign Treinen, May could be a perfect replacement. His pitches move just about as much as Treinen’s (maybe more). May has high leverage reliever written all over.

Gonsolin is going to get a chance to start. But Gonsolin is going to be 31 on May 14, and with only the first half of 2022 in which he excelled as a SP, it might be time to move to the pen and let the kids fight it out. He would be a good replacement for Hudson or Kelly. ST is going to be huge for him.

Badger

That makes sense. Though there has been a few who did it, most notably Smoltz and Eckersley, it may not suit Kershaw. With what he has been through, and what he is yet to go through, one or two high leverage innings at a time makes sense to me.

What’s the most effective way for him to hang on and put up positive WAR at age 37? Well, sure, 5 innings at a time if he can do it. But, can he do it? I have my doubts.

dodgerram

Dodgers will and should give him a shot at starting in 25.
Dodgers should be good enough to give him some rope.

I see May as the next Dodgers closer. He is not made to be a starter and throw 100 pitches every 5-6 days.

If the Dodgers go to a 6 men rotation as they have indicated I can see it like that (when everybody is healthy).

Glasnow
Yamamoto
Ohtani
Kershaw
Buehler (if brought back which I believe will happen)
Gonsolin

Depth:Miller, Knack, Casparius, Sheehan (probably ready at midseason). If everything should go south again Jackson Ferris to provide even more depth.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeff Dominique

Jackson Ferris is the wild card. The way he ended 2024, many teams would have brought him up with only AA experience. I think the Dodgers will watch what he does at AAA (even though he will probably start at AA), knowing he can make the jump if needed.

dodgerram

I forgot Wrobleski. Dodgers are positioned well with their starters IF Glasnow and Ohtani are healthy and good to go.
Only if not I would consider someone like Burnes. Otherwise you the money on Soto but that is a discussion for another day.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Duke Not Snider

Within another five years, the all-time Dodgers squad could very well include Mookie, Shohei and Freddie–especially if they win a few more rings….

Living in Hong Kong, I usually rely on YouTube for my baseball fix. So I tuned into to check out the parade and stadium celebration, which was fine. But the algorithm did something very cool, offering me a replay of Fernando’s 149-pitch non-masterpiece rookie season WS win over Righetti and the Yanks. I had forgotten a lot of the details about this game, so it was nice to be reminded Cey hitting a 3-run HR and later diving to field Murcer’s foul bunt and then firing to first for a double play. (The Yankees biggest blunders in that game were on the basepaths. Ran into a couple of outs.)
These old games are a reminder of how much the game has changed. That 1981 team had impressive talent–but Lasorda had Pedro Guerrero starting at CF. Bob Watson hit a liner that had Pedro break in… but the ball not only soared over Pedro’s head but over the fence as well.
But the funniest thing about this broadcast–with Al Michaels backed by Jim Palmer and Howard Cosell–was how Palmer had to correct Cosell’s confident ignorance.
One exchange went something like this…
Cosell: “Willie Randolph just demonstrated how the Yankees are trying to attack Fernando’s screwball–by going to the opposite field.”
Palmer: “Yes, but that was fastball.”
Later Cosell praised a pitcher’s sinker–and Palmer gently praised his curveballs.
Cosell: “But those pitches dropped!”
Palmer: “They’re supposed to.”
This blast from the past came by happenstance, but YouTube does offer an impressive amount of material from days of yore. The grainy black-and-white images from Ebbets Field are a lot of fun.

dodgerram

If it is the true Mt.Rushmore (and it should be, though hard to pick only 4 guys then):

Scully. Koufax.Kershaw. Robinson.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dodgerram

Jeff, on a technical note:

If I try to lock on to your blog via inprinting the adress ladodgerchronciles (or via a google search ) I get transferred to this website:

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Just wanted to let you know in case you have not noticed it.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SandyAmoros

Ram had the same problem. Bear id take Duke, Sandy, Jackie and Kersh.

Bluto

?

dodgerram

Home

Try it.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Badger

That happened to me a certain of times recently. Weird.

Jeff Dominique

Thank you. I will send this post to the maintenance team.

Jeff Dominique

It has been sent.

dodgerram

What is your favorit call of the last out ?

Mine is Steve Nelson. And it is not even close!

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!

dodgerram

Cole has opted out of his contract with the Yanks.
They now can keep him if they add another year at 36 million to his contract.
That is a lot of money and lenght of contract for a 34 year old pitcher with his mileage on his arm. But he is a true ace, top 3 starter in all of MLB as we saw in Game 5.

Snell opted out too . A lot of excellent starting pitchers on the market.

Belli opted in with the Cubs.

IMHO I would only dive into it if Glasnow should be out for 25, what I still think is not that unlikely given his elbowt troubles.

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Badger

I didn’t realize he had an opt out.

Okay he has now lived his childhood dream of pitching for the Yankees. What hard headed Yankee fans might remember is the brain fart in that disastrous inning that ended the Yankee season

He opted out of an enormous contract. Maybe he wants to come home and play for a winner?

Jeff Dominique

NYY is going to extend him another year for $36MM.

But I agree with you. He went to his childhood dream team and did not win a WS. Now he can come back to LA and sign with LAD and get that WS ring for 2025.

Badger

Will the Dodgers give him what he wants?

Jeff Dominique

I doubt it. They would have to go 5 years and $180MM for a 34 year old pitcher to give him what the Yankees are faced with.

Singing the Blue

The Yanks are faced with a very difficult decision. Logic says the answer is no. Fans say yes.

I’ll tell you one team that would do it, the Mets. Just think of how Yankee fans would react if the Mets stole Cole.

Bumsrap

Floating around is $700MM and 14 years all non deferred. How many owners got rich making those kinds of deals?

I will guess that Soto plays the same defense as does Teo Hernandez but with a better arm.

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Bumsrap

And Soto.

Singing the Blue

Do the Yankees need a left-handed DH or does Stanton start against everyone? I’d kind of like to see Joc in pinstripes before his career is over. I bet he’d love it at Yankee Stadium.

Bumsrap

Yankees declined option on Anthony Rizzo. Will they go after Bellinger? I know a guy who can play first base and hits from the left side the Yankees might want in a trade.

Bumsrap

Looks like Bellinger is staying with Chicago.

OhioDodger

I never doubted the Dodgers would pick up Barnes option and keep him. Especially with Kersh coming back. Considering what he means to the pitching staff and clubhouse, probably a wise decision.

Singing the Blue

The two most disappointed guys are Rushing and Feduccia.

OhioDodger

LOL. For sure.

Bluto

Still, the idea of 10% of the 40 man roster being Catchers for another season seems like a poor allocation of resources.

Bumsrap

Although that makes Feduccia a little closer to being traded to a MLB team he could crack.

Jeff Dominique

They cannot lose Feduccia in the Rule 5 He is already on the 40 man.

OhioDodger

Santander.

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