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Hall of Shame: Part Two

                                              I did a post about the Hall of Shame a short while ago, most of the bloopers featuring the Dodgers in Brooklyn and LA. This chapter will feature bloopers from just about any team listed in the book. Thought it would be a fun read and hope you get as big a kick out of the happenings as I did. Baseball news is usually pretty slow until the first big free agent shoe drops, and that has not happened yet, so here we go.

                                                         One of the more infamous happenings in baseball was Disco Demolition night at a game between the White Sox and Tigers. The promotion was dreamed up by Chicago DJ, Steve Dahl, who along with his legion of listeners, hated disco. He pitched the idea to Mike Veeck, son of the ailing Sox owner, Bill Veeck, who had in his time owning baseball teams ran some interesting promotions including having a midget bat during a game. 

                                                         The idea was to blow up a pile of disco records in center field between games of a twi-night doubleheader at Comiskey Park. Veeck green lighted the idea. Fans who brought records to be demolished would be charged 98 cents admission. The radio stations frequency was 97.6. They estimated that the promotion would draw maybe 5,000 more fans for the game. They seriously underestimated Chicagoans dislike of disco. More than 50,000 fans showed up. The stands were packed. 

                                                         Unexpectedly, Veeck had checked himself out of the hospital and show up at the ballpark. ” What is going on? he asked. ” I am worried about this promotion; it could be catastrophic.”  Father knows best. When no more fans could get in, some outside brought ladders so many more could get in if they wanted. It wasn’t long before fans found out the similarity between records and a frisbee. Some were thrown on the field, and they would sail around the players and stick in the ground. There were several halts to game one as records were cleared from the field. The Tigers won game one, 4-1 and everyone got ready for the demolition. 

                                                        Dahl walked on to the field wearing an army uniform. He worked the crowd into a frenzy yelling “disco sucks”. A busty blonde then triggered the explosion and boom; debris was sent 200 feet into the air with a very loud boom. Fans must have taken this as a signal to storm the field, they tore up chunks of grass, stole home plate, uprooted the pitcher’s mound, and trashed the batting cage. Veeck and Roland Hemmond, the GM, pleaded over the PA system for the fans to stop. Guards outside the stadium were there to keep those fans from storming the fences. 

Crowd sets rejected records on fire at Disco Demolition night, Comiskey, Park, Chicago, Illinois, July 12th, 1979

                                                         Finally, Veeck had to call the cops, helmeted officers appeared and cleared the field relatively quickly making 50 arrests. But the field was a mess. As luck would have it, the supervisor of umpires, Nestor Chylak, was in attendance that night. He had also been the chief umpire five years earlier in Cleveland on Veeck’s disastrous 10-cent beer night. After meeting with Veeck, the umpires and Tigers manager, Sparky Anderson, the Sox forfeited the game. Mike Veeck would later say because although rowdy, the crowd was mostly nonviolent, ” What was great is that the kids were stoned. Had they been drunk, we would have had a real problem.” Hemmond said later” It was a great promotion; we are still talking about it.” Methinks he was just a bit off base there. They talk about it for all the wrong reasons. 

                                                         Some MLB debuts are very good, others not so much. Billy Herman, who is in the Hall of Fame, had a rather inauspicious debut in the majors. Herman was making his debut with the Cubs on August 29th, 1931, against the Reds at Wrigley Field. Herman was determined to show that he belonged in the majors. In his first at bat, he singled off of Red’s hurler, Si Johnson, much to the delight of the Wrigley faithful. In his next at bat, Herman, full of confidence, swung mightily at Johnson’s first pitch. The ball went straight down hitting the back of the plate, bouncing up and hitting Herman right in the back of the head. 

                                                        A player who would spend 16 years in the majors and have a lifetime BA of .304 and be elected to the Hall of Fame, was knocked cold by his own foul ball. It was for him at least a forgettable way to debut in the majors. Herman was carted off the field on a stretcher. There is a small Dodger connection here. Herman played for the Brooklyn Dodgers for parts of 4 seasons in the 40’s and he would return to the team as a coach from 1952-57, earning a World Series ring with the 55 team.

                                                        Dodger fans know well how tough Nolan Ryan could be. In his career, Ryan threw 7 no-hitters. On July 15th, 1973, at Tiger Stadium in Detroit, Ryan was having one of those games. Norm Cash, the Tigers slugging first baseman, had struck out his first two at bats against “The Ryan Express.” In his third AB, Cash at least got wood on the ball, grounding out. In the 9th inning, the Tigers were still without a hit. Mickey Stanley led off the inning grounding out to Angel SS, Rudy Meoli. Willie Horton hit a soft liner to Meoli for the second out. Cash had gone down into the Tiger clubhouse and found an old table leg and strode to the plate with the leg on his shoulder.

                                                       Ryan at that point already had 17 strikeouts in the game. Cash dug in with the table leg on his shoulder, everyone was getting a big laugh out of it. Finally, plate umpire, Ron Luciano, told Cash he needed to get a bat. Cash replied, ” But Ron, I’ve got as much chance with this as I do a bat.” He went back to the dugout and got a bat and stepped back into the batter’s box. He immediately popped out to Meoli and Ryan had his 2nd no-hitter. On his way back to the dugout he told Luciano ” See, I told you so.” Cash was not the first player to come to bat with a wacky bat. In a game in 1929, Rabbit Maranville came to bat with a tennis racquet to try and break a personal slump against Dazzy Vance. He too failed. 

                                                         Strange things could happen during spring training too. During spring training in 1915, Robins manager, Wilbert Robinson overheard some of his players talking about a feat accomplished by Senators catcher, Gabby Street in 1908. On his 13th try, Street caught a ball dropped from the Washington Monument, a distance of 500 feet. The manager took this as a personal challenge. “That’s nothing, I can catch a baseball dropped even higher from an airplane.”

                                                          Team trainer, Jack Coombs, a wizard with figures, calculated the velocity and force of a baseball dropped from 600 feet and deduced that it would be dangerous. Robinson scoffed, wanting to be the first in aviation and baseball history to perform the feat. Combs climbed into a biplane in the seat behind pioneer woman aviator, Ruth Law. Law told Coombs that she had forgotten the baseball, and that one of her crew had substituted a grapefruit.

 

                                                           Here is where the story gets a bit murky. Outfielder, Casey Stengel, said that he was the one who substituted the grapefruit and that he was on the plane and dropped the fruit. He later recanted that version. Casey was known for his quirky humor. Whomever it was, they took off and the grapefruit was dropped instead of a baseball. As it plummeted towards Robinson, he was yelling, “I got it, I got it.” The orb got larger and larger. Still thinking it was a baseball, Robinson planted himself under it. The grapefruit hit his glove and burst, sending seeds and juice and pieces of fruit everywhere. 

                                                            The impact tore the glove off of his hand and flipped him on his back. Feeling the warm juice on his face, Robinson thought he was bleeding and called for help. Players rushed to his aid, but once they saw he was not hurt, they burst out laughing. Robinson though was fuming. He had risked his life over a grapefruit and not an official baseball. ” I’d have caught it.” he said. “except for that damn cloudburst of grapefruit juice.”

                                                               Talk about being forgetful, Babe Herman, now a member of the Reds, headed home after his team beat the visiting Cardinals. Just one problem, Babe left his 7-year-old son at the ballpark. He didn’t mean to do it, he just plum forgot. About six weeks after the Dodgers traded him to the Reds, Babe was caring for Bobby while his wife stayed in Brooklyn tending to his 2-year-old son, Danny, who was ill. 

                                                                On April 27th, 1932, Babe took Bobby to Crosley Field with him and got him a box seat. He told the boy to wait for him back of the grandstands after the game. With his son cheering him on, Babe had 2 singles, a double, scoring a run and driving in one, also stealing a base in the Reds 6-4 win. He then showered and shaved while mentally replaying his day. Still on cloud nine, he hitched a ride home with Red’s manager, Dan Howley. 

                                                                Meanwhile, Bobby dutifully did what he was told and waited for his no-show dad standing outside the ballpark. With Herman almost home, Howley turned to him and said “Geez, we forgot the kid!” They called the ballpark and found out that the team secretary had found Bobby and was bringing him home. Recalled Herman with a chuckle, ” I guess I had too much on my mind that day.”

                                                                Last story in this post involves an incident many of you may have seen. April 24, 1994, at Dodger Stadium. The Dodgers were hosting the Montreal Expos. The baseball season itself would shortly be stopped by the players strike that would cancel the rest of the season. But on this day, the game went on as scheduled. There was one out in the third inning and the Dodgers had a man on first with Mike Piazza at the plate. 

                                                               Piazza hit a high fly down the right field line, Expos right fielder, Larry Walker, made a routine catch. In a thoughtful gesture, he went over to the stands and handed the ball to a young fan, forgetting that it was only the second out. He turned around to see Jose Offerman sprinting towards third and his teammates yelling at him. He retrieved the ball from the fan and fired to third, keeping Offerman from scoring. 

                                                               The next hitter, Tim Wallach, hit a 2-run homer. When he returned to right field the next inning, he gave the young fan a replacement baseball and was cheered by the Dodger faithful for doing so. He was also cheered each time he came to bat. In an otherwise forgetful Expos 7-1 loss, he made it a huge memory for a young Dodger fan. On August 11th, the players went on strike, and no more memories would be made until the following year. Fans were pretty upset with the players, and it took a while to regain their trust. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael Norris

Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear

Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear

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OhioDodger
OhioDodger
3 days ago

A lot of buzz out there about the Dodgers now being the front runner for Tucker. Certainly would improve our outfield.
Unfortunately, it would end most any chance of Ward getting a look.

Dionysus
Dionysus
3 days ago
Reply to  OhioDodger

Who?

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
3 days ago
Reply to  OhioDodger

If Tucker gets signed, Teo could get traded

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
3 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

OK…. Sign Tucker… and then trade Teo + Freelnd + Bobby Miller to the Cubs for Shaw.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
3 days ago

If the Cubs were looking for a DH that could work. But the Cubs already have a hit with no glove RF in Seiya Suzuki who had a better year than Teoscar. i still think you are overvaluing Bobby Miller’s trade value. But he would be going home and that could make a difference.

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

I think you are undervaluing Bobby Miller.
He was first-round pick who has proven that he has ML league ability but has trouble controlling his emotions. He may just need a fresh start with a change of scenery and a new guru whispering in his ear.
Going home might help Miller. Simply leaving the Dodgers (and the disappointment) might help him more.

IIRC, Suzuki mostly played RF, not DH, for the Cubs last season. Either he or Teo could DH. Shaw could DH, of course, but they might prefer to deal him for pitching and young talent.
If I ran the Cubs and the Dodgers came calling about Shaw, I’d be asking about guys like Sheehan, Ferris, Rushing, Hope and dePaula. If the Dodgers offered to include Miller, I’d love it.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
3 days ago

Kody Hoese was a 1st round pick. Should the Dodgers re-sign him? Maddux Bruns was a first round pick. Should the Dodgers push him to the top of the organizational ladder? Is 4 years in A Ball enough? Jeren Kendall was a 1st round pick. Should the Dodgers call him out of retirement? Jordan Sheffield was a 1st round pick. Should the Dodgers call him out of retirement?

Jared Kelenic was 6th overall pick and has been a bust.

1st round picks do get longer runs, but that does not make them MLB players.

The number of 1st round picks who have gone bust are countless.

I get it. You like Bobby Miller. I liked Alex Wood, Austin Barnes, and James Outman.

Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Not sure trading Miller “home” will help any. I think he’s had one start at Wrigley and he gave up something like 5 runs in 1+ innings.

He might prefer to be traded farther from home. Is there an MLB team that calls Alaska home?

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

The Cubs also are about $3.5M under the salary penalty. Extending Hoerner would put them over and trading him gives them some payroll flexibility. Teo isn’t fitting into the Cubs payroll situation. Plus what Jeff said

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
3 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

The Dodgers could send $$ with Teo.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
3 days ago

Or the Dodgers could trade for Jake Meyers or sign Bader to play CF, move Pages to RF, and Teo to LF. There are multiple options rather than giving Teoscar away.

tedraymond
tedraymond
3 days ago

Arenado and cash to Arizona for a pitching prospect. Salary dump completed for the Cards.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
3 days ago
Reply to  tedraymond

This is a good deal for Arizona. They get Arenado for$5MM in 2026 and $6MM in 2027 for an 8th round pick from last year, Jack Martinez. Martinez is a RHP who was a 4th year senior playing at Arizona State, his 3rd school. He did not play professionally last year. This was a total salary dump by St. Louis, and what they needed to do. They are saving $11MM and getting a lottery ticket.

Now what happens to Donovan?

The Arizona desert basically resurrected Eugenio Suarez’s career. Maybe it will unleash something for Arenado as well.

therealten
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

If the Dodgers are indeed in on Tucker it will probably be a short term 3 years or less to make room for the outfielders coming.

the Giants will probably overpay for Donovan who would give them a fantastic infield.

the Dodgers need a quality bat. If they don’t get a top bat they might go back to Donovan if he is still on the board.

in my opinion Arizona was a huge disappointment last year but they are dangerous. San Diego will be dangerous and the Giants could be challenging. It should be a good division race with the Dodgers winning.

Keit
Keit
3 days ago
Reply to  therealten

Reportedly, Mets are offering Tucker 3 years and between $120 to $140 mil

therealten
3 days ago
Reply to  Keit

Mets will most likely throw the most money at Tucker. It comes down to whether Tucker values winning. We know Soto only cares about money but there are a few like Ohtani, Teo, Muncy, Kershaw, who got plenty of money but value winning right up there.

Keit
Keit
3 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

They could throw a year or two to the offer and lower the AAV.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
3 days ago
Reply to  Keit

Who could? If Tucker was presented with a 3 year $150MM deal or a 5 year $150MM deal, which one would he take.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
3 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Mets might try for both Tucker and Bellinger

Keit
Keit
3 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

That would frost the Yankee fans butts.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
3 days ago

Andy Ibáñez is officially a Dodger. Tyler Fitzgerald was waived to make room.

Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

I believe it’s Ryan Fitzgerald, not Tyler, but something tells me no one is going to care except Mr. Fitzgerald.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Awesome

Dionysus
Dionysus
3 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Ibanez is a depth move since we can’t count on both Freeland & Kim to make the bench.

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
3 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Ibanez’s arrival increases the possibility that Freeland is traded.

Badger
Badger
3 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Would that be snowball’s chance? Probably right. He looked a bit overwhelmed in his first 10 minutes with the club.

Kim. You know if they could get Bichette, Kim would be benched. That tells you what they might think about him. In my opinion bench players need to be proven pros. Guys like Rojas, Kiké and Muncy. You can’t have a guy with only 161 career at bats coming off the bench.

Or maybe you can, what do I know. The older I get the faster I was.

Yeah, I said Muncy. He plays 3 infield positions and can get 3 WAR in 323 at bats. Well he did last year. He’s a year older and probably a few beers slower so that could be a bit less.

What was my point?

Oh yeah, Kim. He’s the starting second baseman until he isn’t. I wonder what his trade value might be.

Last edited 3 days ago by Badger
Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
3 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Kim had a good rookie season despite unfairly limited opportunity. Among his UT peers, only Rojas had a higher OPS.

Kim, with a .699 OPS, outhit Edman, Kike, and Freeland, and also Rushing and (of course) Conforto. He also demonstrated excellent defense and elite speed. Unless the Dodgers sign Bichette–unlikely, I think–the Dodgers should give Kim the “runway” at 2B and use Edman as the primary UT option. We want this team to get younger, right?

Last season, Roberts usually sat Kim against lefties even though he hit them hard in the relatively small sample. Roberts preferred veterans, of course, but this didn’t help Kim’s development. If Kim improves his ABs, he could be the ideal “second leadoff” batter.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
3 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Actually, Freeland had a great first 10 minutes so with Max now part of the bench, Freeland starts at 3rd?

Badger
Badger
3 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

Freeland hit .190 with a 36% K rate. He needs some time. 25 in August. Check back with him then. Or trade him.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
3 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Those numbers reflect his full 30 minutes

Badger
Badger
3 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

You’re right.

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
3 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Koufax is a true GOAT. And Manny Mota might be Dodgers’ GOAT pinch-hitter. (He was a star on my Dodgers-only Strat-o-Matic team.) Baseball historians should track down Gentile, Kipp and Aspromonte.

My heart, if not all of my head, is also rooting for Ryan Ward more than ever. I just saw him interviewed by Doug McKain of Dodgers Nation, and a thought popped into my head:

For years I’ve been looking for the Dodgers to have their own breakthrough prodigy in the mold of Soto, Acuna, Trout. Maybe de Paula or Hope or Sirota could be that guy….
Or maybe 27-year-old Ward, the reigning PCL MVP, can be a break-through late-bloomer.

In some ways, Ward comes across as a grinder in the mold of Max Muncy, a guy who nearly retired before the Dodgers revived his career. (Ward and Muncy, it seems, are good friends.) In the interview, Ward discussed how last season he improved by working on his batting approach, getting deeper into counts nd “hunting” for his pitch.

Last season, I just assumed that Ward, who switched from 1B to OF earlier as a pro, must be a terrible fielder to be constantly passed over. I figured the Dodgers would eventually use him as a sweetener in a trade package, or maybe flip him for a prospect to a small-market team that could use his lefty power bat. That could still happen… but Ward’s grinder mentality now has me hoping he starts in LF on Opening Day for the Dodgers.
Perhaps the next Max Muncy is a guy who could be a bat-first left fielder, and perhaps a later candidate to succeed Freddie at 1B.
If the Dodgers land Tucker, I’d be fine with Teo being traded to afford Ward the opportunity he has earned. (Funny how Dodgers could get younger if a late-bloomer like Ward succeeds.)
And while most of us don’t want Teo playing in RF, Roberts said that his defense was “league-average” late in the season. An OF that reads Ward-Pages-Teo is a possibility.

Hmm…
Shohei DH
Mookie SS
Freddie 1B
Will C
Max 3B
Pages CF
Ward LF
Teo RF
Kim 2B

That’s with the L/R rhythm Roberts likes.

Last edited 3 days ago by Duke Not Snider
OhioDodger
OhioDodger
3 days ago

I too would like to see Ward get a real shot. I could live with a Ward/Call platoon in LF. Ward and Call could even play RF. I have read that Ward is not a bad defensive outfielder. Certainly better than Teo.

Keit
Keit
3 days ago
Reply to  OhioDodger

So let me get this straight, you guys would rather have a Ward/Call platoon than have Tucker? You guys will probably get your wish but I’m not giving up a Tucker, or Bichette dream until they’ve signed elsewhere, then I’ll think about where they fit in the line up.

you know you guys, putting Ward in a line up, is like wishing it into existence, quit putting that kind of stuff out into the universe.😀

Last edited 3 days ago by Keit
Jeff Dominique
Admin
3 days ago
Reply to  Keit

I do not think there is anyone out there who would prefer Ward/Call over Tucker. But be realistic. The Dodgers are not going to beat the Mets 3 years $150MM or meet Toronto’s length of contract. Sometimes you have to play the hand you are dealt, and many are saying having Ward/Call as a backup is not bad. I am in that camp.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Exactly.
Thank You.

Keit
Keit
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

AF said they were going to do something on offense but they were being patient, so I’m thinking he’s not done yet. I’ll admit Ward/Call maybe what happens, but there are still a lot of options between FA, and the trade market.

Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
3 days ago

All Ward needs to get his shot next year is for Tucker, Bichette and Belli to cooperate (sign with other teams) and then have the Cards, Cubs, Red Sox and Guardians cooperate by not trading us Donovan, Hoerner/Shaw, Duran/Abreu or Kwan.

Your lineup looks good except that I don’t see any way Teo bats 8th. If he’s hitting that badly, he’ll be asked/made to leave.

Dionysus
Dionysus
3 days ago

Haha

Sam Oyed
Sam Oyed
3 days ago

Tuesday afternoon, ESPN’s Jesse Rogers reported that the Toronto Blue Jays have offered Tucker a long-term deal.

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