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Dodger Pitchers Looking For Too Much Chase…Or Injuries Taking Their Toll

While I would like to disagree with Scott on Dodgers focusing on hitting edges and looking for chase, sadly I cannot.  I have made similar comments when Julio Urías was nibbling and had problems getting through the first inning.  All of a sudden he began to challenge the hitters and he found more success.

You may not like it, but MLB is fully behind the Statcast phenomenon.  It is no longer important that a player just gets a hit.  Batting average is important, but more important than expected batting average?  Expected slugging?  What is the exit velo? Was it barreled?  What was the bat speed?  How many pitches does the player chase?  These are the metrics the decision makers seem to focus on.

Pitching is no different.  Scott and others may complain about LAD pitchers chasing the chase.  But that is what is expected of them.  However, you have to look at chase rate in conjunction with whiff rate.  A whiff is a pitch that is a swing and miss regardless as to where the pitch is.  Contrarily a chase is a pitch outside the zone that induces swing and miss.  If the pitcher does not have a good chase pitch, he better have a good whiff pitch.  Otherwise, that pitcher has to rely on location and soft contact.  Preferably high ground ball percentages.

Then again, maybe the current LAD starters other than Yamamoto are not good enough to challenge, and have to rely nibbling.

  • Yoshinobu Yamamoto – 75th percentile chase, 85th percentile whiff, fastball run value 93
  • Tony Gonsolin – 39th percentile chase, 87th percentile whiff, fastball run value 26
  • Dustin May – 25th percentile chase, 31st percentile whiff, fastball run value 54
  • Landon Knack – 33rd percentile chase, 31st percentile whiff, fastball run value 28

Gonsolin does not get a lot of chase.  His fastball run value is not very good.  While his “stuff” is not fooling the batter inducing the chase, he is getting whiff because his split finger and slider are swing and miss in the zone, or they are landing for called strikes.

OTOH, Dustin May is pitching to contact.  He is in the 85th percentile for ground balls so he needs a good defensive infield.

Yamamoto is the only SP with a good fastball value.  The other three do not. Thus, they have to rely on landing their breaking ball and offspeed pitches for strikes, but on the edges.  May, Knack, and Clayton Kershaw do not have the swing and miss stuff to get out of trouble. If they have to rely on the fastball to get the strike, it gets hit.

Let’s be realistic.  Blake Snell and Tyler Glasnow are the two pitchers the Dodgers need to join Yamamoto and Gonsolin (Ohtani?) for the playoff rotation.  Both pitchers are full of red on their Statcast page for 2024.

Snell was in 98th percentile for whiff, 81st percentile for chase, and had a fastball value of 85.  That is a dominating pitcher.  He walked a lot, but he was rarely in danger because of his out pitches.

Glasnow was in 85th percentile for whiff, 33rd chase, and still 95th in K%.  While his fastball run value was in the 88th percentile, his breaking ball value was in the 99th percentile.  His curveball is unhittable.  He does not need the chase, because his pitches are good enough in the zone.  When hit, he was in the 79th percentile for ground balls.

If the Dodgers get Snell and Glass back by June, and they stay healthy (I know BIG IF), that will be a different rotation than the one they have now.

When you do not have that chase or whiff pitch, but are pitching to contact you better be able to hit spots, that means living on the edges.  So are the Dodger SP (not named Yamamoto) chasing the chase, or are they just trying to stay out of the middle of the zone where their stuff is just not good enough.

Usually you want your high leverage guys to be swing and miss guys.

  • Tanner Scott – 98th percentile chase, 64th percentile whiff (Before Tuesday game)
  • Kirby Yates – 91st percentile chase, 99th percentile whiff

 

Other relievers:

  • Ben Casparius – 85th percentile chase, 76th percentile whiff, fastball run value 94
  • Jack Dreyer – 56th percentile chase, 72nd percentile whiff, fastball run value 79
  • Alex Vesia – 79th percentile chase, 86th percentile whiff, fastball run value 66
  • Anthony Banda – 39th percentile chase, 60th percentile whiff, fastball run value 54
  • Luis Garcia – 45th percentile chase, 24th percentile whiff, fastball run value 28

Outside of Casparius, each of those pitchers have to rely on hitting spots to be most effective.  Alex Vesia was getting outs last year on his fastball up in the zone.  He is not getting that call or swing and miss this year.  Plus his fastball has lost > 1 MPH since last year, and > 2 MPH since 2023.

The Dodgers need Evan Phillips, Michael Kopech, and Brusdar Graterol for their bullpen.  Even Edgardo Henriquez could be preferable.

Just as a casual outsider looking in, the injuries have decimated the starting rotation and the bullpen (duh), but it would appear that the LAD pitching depth is not as good as advertised.  There are not enough quality arms for a quality pitching staff with their injuries.  So the ones they do have are going to need to get better…and fast.

The average starter in MLB tosses 5.25 innings.  The Dodgers have three pitchers with at least 5 starts.  Yamamoto has 9 starts and 51.0 IP (5.67 average), May has 44.2 IP with 8 starts (5.58 average), and Sasaki has 34.1 IP with 8 starts (4.29 average).

Landon Knack threw 105 pitches Monday night, so he is fully ramped.

Dustin May has started 8 games and has pitched at least 5.0 innings in all 8.  Three of the 8 were at least 6.0 IP.  He has a high of 97 pitches.

Tony Gonsolin has only started 4 games; 1 was 6.0, 2 were, 5.0, and his last one was 4.0, but the thumb blister could have been the problem there.  He did throw 97 pitches so he should be fully ramped.

Yoshinobu Yamamoto (not counting Tuesday night) has 9 starts, and each of them have gone at least 5.0 IP.  He does have 4 starts of 6.0 innings, and 1 start going 7.0 innings.  He has thrown as many as 103 pitches, but his last 2 were 88 pitches.  Because he was on 5 days rest?

I see two problems.  One, Roki Sasaki was not ready for MLB.  The Dodgers needed a 6 man rotation with two Japanese pitchers, and they did not have it, especially after Snell and Glasnow went down.  Without 6 starters, that necessitated bullpen games.

So while I do not disagree with Scott that the current bevy of Dodger pitchers are looking for the chase too much, they sort of have to because they are just not good enough to shut down an offense when they have to throw the ball in the zone (again not counting Yamamoto in this group).  So for me, it all comes back to injured pitchers.  They did not count on two of their top 3 starters going down so early, Gonsolin not being ready at the start of the season,  Sasaki not being ready for MLB right at the start, and Bobby Miller imploding.  They have needed to rely on Landon Knack.  Justin Wrobleski and Nick Frasso are not ready to be impact starting pitchers at the MLB level.  What are they supposed to do?

They will need pitching at the deadline.  But there will not be a lot of pitchers who will be available.  They need SP that can go deeper (thank you Mr. Obvious).  They do not have to be top of the rotation guys, but more innings eaters.

I like the idea of Erick Fedde.  Fedde threw 177 innings last year and has 52.1 thus far in 2025.  He is not an ace by any stretch, but he gets outs.  He has a complete game shutout this year, and will eat innings.  But St. Louis is going to have to play themselves out of the Division or Wild Card race.  They are one of the hottest teams in MLB right now, and only 1.0 game behind Chicago in NL Central, and one game behind in Wild Card.  Are they good enough to stay there?

One pitcher I have coveted for the back of the rotation for the last two years is Tampa Bay’s Zack Littell.  He has 9 starts with 54.1 IP.  His last three starts were 7.0 IP, 6.0 IP, and 7.1 IP.  He is a pitch to contact pitcher with very low K’s, but most importantly, he does not walk anyone.  90th percentile in BB %.

Regardless, more than anyone, the Dodgers NEED Tyler Glasnow and Blake Snell. Hopefully Clayton Kershaw will figure things out and become a good back of the rotation pitcher. Did the Dodgers perhaps miss out on getting Ohtani ready sooner as a pitcher.  We will never know.

Finally, I will not be surprised to see Jackson Ferris make his MLB debut later this summer.

 

MiLB GAME SUMMARIES

 

Sacramento River Cats (Giants) 11 – OKC Comets 2

The Sacramento River Cats jumped out to an 8-0 lead and went on to defeat the Oklahoma City Comets, 11-5, Tuesday night in the series opener. The River Cats  scored five runs in the second inning, including a bases-clearing double hit by Grant McCray.

Sacramento added three more runs in the third inning, including a two-run home run by Logan Porter. The Comets chipped away at the Sacramento lead with a RBI single by Esteury Ruiz in the third inning and solo home run by Michael Chavis in the fourth inning.

After Sacramento added two runs in the fifth inning and another in the eighth inning for an 11-2 advantage, the Comets scored the final three runs of the game, including a RBI double by Ryan Ward in the eighth inning.

The Comets have lost back-to-back games and are now 2-4 in their last six games…Oklahoma City has lost four straight home series openers and fell to 1-4 in home series openers overall this season.

The River Cats’ 15 hits were the most by a Comets opponent this season.

Esteury Ruiz finished with the Comets’ lone multi-hit game, going 2-for-5 with a RBI and run scored. Ruiz has six hits, three RBI and three runs scored over his last four games.

Ryan Ward collected a RBI double and now has 226 RBI in his Oklahoma City career — four RBI away from tying OKC’s Bricktown-era career RBI record of 230 (Jason Botts, 2005-08)…He has reached base in 13 straight games to tie his season-best on-base streak.

Justin Dean picked up a hit and scored a run and has now hit safely in seven of his last eight starts, going 11-for-28. He has scored a run in five straight games — tied for the longest stretch of games with a run scored by a Comets player this season.

Michael Chavis hit his eighth home run of the season — tied for second-most among Comets players this season. It was also his second home run in his last four games.

Dodgers pitcher Michael Kopech continued his Major League Rehab Assignment and allowed two runs, three hits and a walk with one strikeout over two-thirds of an inning. He faced six batters, throwing 26 pitches (12 strikes). He was placed on the 15-day Injured List March 15 with a right shoulder impingement and transferred to the 60-day IL May 1. Tuesday was his fourth outing with OKC this season.

Kopech does not appear to be ready to face MLB hitters.

 

Box Score

 

 

Springfield Cardinals 7 – Tulsa Drillers 4

The Tulsa Drillers fell victim to an offensive bombardment from the Springfield Cardinals Tuesday night, and a lot of the damage came from two players. Springfield’s Nathan Church and Leonardo Bernal combined for six hits, four runs scored and five runs batted in to lead the Cards to a 7-4 victory over the Drillers.

It was the opening game of a six-game series and the first meeting of the season between the two teams.

The Cardinals took early control of the game by scoring a run in each of the first four innings.

Nathan Church doubled on Jared Karros’ first pitch of the game and came in to score the first run on a sacrifice fly from Leonardo Bernal.

A solo home run from Jeremy Rivas in the second made it 2-0 in the second, before Church singled and scored on a double by Bernal.

Dakota Harris homered in the fourth inning to increase the lead to 4-0.

The Drillers got on the scoreboard in the bottom of the fourth courtesy of Jose Ramos. With one out, Yeiner Fernandez singled and Griffin Lockwood-Powell walked. Ramos brought them both home with a two-run double.

It remained 4-2 until the Cards added three more runs in the seventh, and it was again Bernal doing the damage. The Springfield catcher belted a three-run homer off reliever Christian Suarez.

The Drillers made things interesting in the bottom of the eighth. With the bases loaded and two outs, Chris Newell singled home two runs to cut the deficit to three runs and bring the potential game-tying run to the plate in John Rhodes. Rhodes made a bid for the tying homer, but his towering drive was caught on the warning track by Church in the left field corner.

Church, who is the number 2 outfield prospect in the St. Louis Cardinals minor league system, had his second straight three-hit game, finishing 3-5 with three runs scored. He upped his season average to .354.

Bernal, who is the number 2 catching prospect in the St. Louis organization, finished the night a perfect 3-3 with the homer and five runs batted in.

The Redbirds out-hit the Drillers 16-5 in the game.

No Tulsa batter had a 2-hit game, and Ramos’ 2-run double was the only XBH.

 

Box Score

 

 

Great Lakes Loons vs West Michigan Whitecaps (Detroit) – Game Postponed due to rain.  DH for Wednesday 05-21-2025.

 

  

Stockton Ports (A’s) 10 – Rancho Cucamonga Quakes 7

The Quakes’ 12-game road trip opened on a sour note, as the Stockton Ports scored four times in the seventh inning to take the lead for good, defeating Rancho Cucamonga on Tuesday night by a final score of 10-7.

A three-run single by Jared Sprague-Lott broke the game open and gave the Ports their fifth win in seven home games over the Quakes.

Trailing 5-4 in the top of the seventh, Joendry Vargas tied the game with an RBI double, his second of three hits on the night, as Rancho evened it up at 5-5.

The Ports took advantage of control issues from Quakes’ reliever Connor Godwin, as they scored four times to take a 9-5 lead.

They got an additional run in the eighth, then withstood a two-run rally in the ninth, as Vargas struck again with an RBI single and Samuel Munoz drove home a run with a sac fly.  That’s as close as the Quakes would get though, as Aidan Layton came out of the pen and struck out Roger Lasso to end the game.

The Quakes will send Hyun-Seok Jang to the mound on Wednesday, as he’ll be opposed by Stockton’s Ryan Magdic (1-1) at 7:05pm.

Joendry Vargas – 3-5, 2 RBI, double (1).

 

Box Score

 

 

Texas ACL 2 – LAD ACL 1-0

Payton Martin pitched a brilliant 5.0 scoreless innings.  He did allow 4 hits (all singles), but did not walk anyone.  He did register 5 strikeouts.

The Dodgers jumped to a 1-0 lead in the 3rd. when Brendan Tunink tripled and scored on a Emil Morales single.

Tim Fischer relieved Martin in the 6th, and Texas scored 2 off Fischer and Accimias Morales.

Chase Harlan had 2 hits for the Dodgers.

 

Box Score

 

Jeff Dominique

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dodgerram
dodgerram
22 days ago

Badly needed win. Yoshi was great. Deserved the win.
With all our pitching problems do we now have to worry about Scott too ?
Hope not.

Kopech was tagged at AAA again. He does not look ready for MLB hitting .

IMHO Wrobleski and Miller have to be called up. Miller to start and Wrobleski to give some length out of the pen.
A 6th men rotation just not sustainable at the moment with all the injuries.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago
Reply to  dodgerram

Miller IMHO has two huge issues. 1. He walks far too many hitters. 2.When he gets in trouble, mentally he does not handle it well. He then ends up giving up runs in bunches. That is the main reason he is back in the minors. So far at the MLB level, his head is his worst enemy.

TennisMenace
TennisMenace
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Agree….don’t bring him up until he shows he has put those issues behind him.

dodgerram
dodgerram
22 days ago

If we are looking for some starting pitching help Ryan Weathers of the Marlins might be a good option. Still young, 25 years old, excellent stuff and an 1.80 ERA so far.
Marlins traded Arraez early last season , they are going nowhere again. So they might be ready to sell early this season too.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Dionysus
Dionysus
21 days ago

Good win

Badger
Badger
21 days ago

Great information Jeff. It sums up what we all can see is true, the Dodgers pitching is just not very good. The rotation is made up of 1 ace followed by a train of #4-5’s and the bullpen already looks overworked.

And what to do about it? Wait it out I suspect.

We can also anticipate another Flaherty like signing (I didn’t say Flaherty, I said Flaherty like) but probably not until the deadline. Those teams that have available pitching will want a competitive bidding process. There could be a scrap heap pick up, but isn’t that what they already have?

I think it’s safe to say critical coefficients to the Dodgers championship winning formula are currently on the injured list. Yes Jeff, big IF’s. In the meantime, find ways to win enough games to stay competitive. That’s what they did last night.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Who is the Ace? Yamamoto has not really earned that title, yet.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

The ceiling for Snell and Glasnow could be said to be non-existant, simply because they can’t stay on the field long enough to find out.

Right now, we’ve got Yamamoto, May, and Gonsolin, as healthy starters with good potential and experience. I think the team has to be looking for a starter the trade deadline. It would be out of character for AF not to dig someone up.

I also think Casparius, Sasaki, & Wrobleski could compete as starters if healthy.

Scott Andes
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

You can see from last night that Yamamoto is in a class of his own. That guy is a pitcher, and all of the rest of the bums need to take note. That guy is a joy to watch pitch. He’s a pitcher, not a thrower and taught a masterclass. The rest of the staff right now is a joke.

Thank you Jeff for confirming what I have been noticing over the last two seasons with the chase, and also bringing up something I haven’t even thought about. The fastball. The run values on almost the entire staff (minus Yamamoto) are very poor. Meaning most of the pitchers have lousy fastballs, and they have to chase the chase, or they get hammerred. We’re seeing the result of that. The fastball is the foundation of pitching, in my opinion and it lays the groundwork and sets up all the rest of the pitcher’s arsenal. Everything revolves around a good fastball. Yamamoto has it, his has it all, movement, spin, (Zip), depth. It’s great….(Chef’s kiss)

The rest of those mediocre arms (also minus Glasnow and Snell) have no fastballs. As you can see the Dodgers are struggling right now to stay afloat with the lack of a competitive pitching staff. They just don’t have one, and sorry to say, there are no difference makers in the minors or amongst the big league staff.

Sheehan, Ryan, Hurt, Knack, Wrobleski, and Miller, are all mediocre to below average and none of them are impact arms. They are depth pieces, and poor ones too boot. The only arm from the farm that looked like he was a difference maker was Stone, and he’s injured.

So what are the Dodgers to do? as Jeff asked. In short, nothing. Lose. You can’t win without a competitive pitching staff. Only 1 healthy starter with a good fastball? 2 effective relievers? I have a solution though. Next time, build a pitching staff around pitchers who have very good fastballs. No more of this sweeper/slider and smoke and mirrors nonsense. MLB hitters normally are not going to chase.

Unless Snell, Glasnow, and a few of the relievers (phillips, Treinen, Graterol, Yates) come back soon, the Dodgers simply will not be competitive this year, and will continue to lose. The offense can’t bail them out every night.

Build a better pitching staff. Or play golf in October.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Scott Andes

May and Gonsolin are damned good pitchers who can be successful starters, now. You are forgetting how abysmal we were last season with our plethora of injuries and we still won a championship. History repeats itself.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

For me, Knack should be used only as a reliever until he proves that he can be consistent and have his control locked up.

Scott Andes
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Jeff,

You make good points. But I am not calling anyone specifically a Bum. I am looking at the entire pitching staff as a whole which right now is not an effective Major League pitching staff.

I don’t have a problem with Knack, or Sheehan, or wrobleski. I was always high on Stone because he came out and proved it at the major league level before getting injured. The starters and relievers (minus Yamamoto, May Gonsolin and Tanner Scott) are not quality enough to get major league hitters out or hold leads late in games. You essentially said so yourself above in today’s article.

I think the problem here is that many people (not saying the Dodgers management, they probably already know this) overrate these prospects (Knack, Wrobleski, Sheehan, etc) and talk about them like they are in the Paul Skenes category. They are not, and hey that’s ok.

If you look at the numbers and results for the Dodger’s pitching staff, ERA, runs allowed, BAA, Fastball Run values etc, the pitching staff has been very poor, and it’s the sole reason the Dodgers are barely treading water in the standings. The only reason they are still in first place is because of their incredibly good offense. But that won’t last long. If Glasnow, Snell and a few of the primary relievers are not back by July, where do you think the team is going to be in the standings?

The club has issues with starting pitching last year, but the difference from last year was that the bullpen was much more effective in limiting runs from scoring. This year they are trotting out Luis Garcia, and Ryan Loutos, Lou Trevino, and Matt Sauer. As you said earlier, the quality of the depth is poor.

The starting pitchers have pitched the least amount of innings in the majors (30 out of 30) and the relievers have pitched the most innings in the majors. If this continues, they will not be competitive.

And so far because of the poor quality of the pitching staff, they have not played well at all outside of that 8-0 run at the beginning of April in which they trailed in every game and had to have miraculous comeback rallys from the lineup.

They have to either find better quality arms with strong fastballs that can eat innings and challenge hitters, or get their injured pitchers back soon. Here’s hoping one of those happens soon.

Scott Andes
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

I’m always willing to give anyone a chance Jeff, before I proclaim that they suck.

But I could work on my patience. Thanks for remdinding me and having a little patience with my patience levels.

If Stone was around this would be a much better staff, Sheehan too.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Scott Andes

I like Stone and would like to see him return to form this season. Will he? Sheehan, I have no opinion about, yet.

Cassidy
Cassidy
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

This team will make the playoffs with me as their #5 starter through the first half. It’s still about getting the pitching healthy and ready for October. I think we will see the dominant, healthy Dodgers in August and carry it through to a repeat WS

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Cassidy

Will you sign for the minimum?

Badger
Badger
21 days ago
Reply to  Cassidy

Hmm. You as #5. That guarantees a 20% loss rate every 5th day.

Yeah, I think we could live with that.

You’re hired. Go warm up.

Last edited 21 days ago by Badger
Bluto
Bluto
21 days ago

Not sure i see a starting pitcher acquisition, unless the starters didn’t come back healthy. Just no room.

Playoffs mean a reduced staff. Probably four starting pitchers. Right?

Badger
Badger
21 days ago
Reply to  Bluto

Yes. 4. And you of course are right regarding room on the staff. But don’t forget what happened last year. Will Glasnow, Snell and Sasaki all be available in October?

Last edited 21 days ago by Badger
Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

I think they were hoping for something more from Flaherty rather than an inning eater. He was off to a very good year but baseball can be fickle to any Dodger pitcher.

Wayne
Wayne
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Like last year’s Flaherty acquisition, I’m now convinced LAD will acquire another “innings-eater” by the trade deadline. But hopefully, they won’t need that innings eater to be a playoff-starter, like they needed with Flaherty last season.

Johnny Gentle
Johnny Gentle
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

It would be nice if Knack could be that guy. Get us to the postseason then give way.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Johnny Gentle

Hope is not a strategy. As I mentioned before, he should be a reliever and earn his bonafides.

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago
Reply to  Johnny Gentle

Knack IMHO is way too homer prone. If he can cut down on giving up dingers, I would feel much more comfortable with him pitching.

Bluto
Bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

add Ohtani, YY, Gonsolin, Sheehan.

Obviously all of the above are not on the same tier, but they don’t need to be. The Dodgers won with last years rotation, which was very lesser.

but to me, the issue is just roster space. Active and 40 man.

who knows? they may all end up on the 60. I could be completely wrong, for the upteenth time

Last edited 21 days ago by Bluto
Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago

You have got to feel for a guy like Ryan Ward. The guy is hitting .318 with an OBP close to .400, slugging over .500 and his OPS is .935. And he hasn’t ever sniffed a call-up. He couldn’t be worse than Conforto out in left.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

This may be the last OF mistake that AF makes. He has made many the last several years and never knows when to cut bait.

Wayne
Wayne
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Ward’s issue is his meh defense in the field. Nevertheless, the long-leash “niceties” the Dodgers publicly say about Conforto probably masks their true intentions for him. Conforto better start mashing …soon.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
21 days ago
Reply to  Wayne

Dodgers need to take off the leash and call the vet.

Wayne
Wayne
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Hoping this happens by this year.

philjones
philjones
21 days ago

Jeff D. terrific analysis on how Statcast has influenced how organizations go about getting outs these days. The Art of getting guys out without throwing strikes. Maybe scouts now report not on a pitchers fastballs and the quality of their arsenal these days but on the quality of their Chase Pitches.  
“Chasing the Chase” is a great phrase.  
It’s sort of humorous to me how announcers denigrate contact pitchers who don’t display high velocity and big spin and hits that don’t have a 95 mph exit velocity. It’s like they are unworthy hits.
The Statcast numbers seem more important than outcomes.  
I like Dusty Baker’s old school comment that he doesn’t care about exit velocity; he cares about exit hits.
Pitching Coaching 102 – throw strike one and nibble your ass off until you have to throw one in the zone.
Thanks again Jeff. Great stuff.

bluto
bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  philjones

I hope this response was sarcasm, i fear it is not.

Scott Andes
21 days ago
Reply to  bluto

Did it not meet your high standards?

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago
Reply to  Scott Andes

Bluto has high standards??????

Scott Andes
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

lolz Bear.

Ron Fairly fan
Ron Fairly fan
21 days ago
Reply to  philjones

That’s another problem for the Dodger pitchers. Their first strike percentage is 59.8 the seventh worst in baseball.

bluto
bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  Ron Fairly fan

this is a big problem.

Badger
Badger
21 days ago
Reply to  Ron Fairly fan

Good stat.

I’m having a problem buying the “don’t throw strikes” strategy. It goes against everything I was taught. I find it difficult to believe the “throw strikes, change speeds, change locations” approach isn’t effective anymore. And I’ve watched as a couple of those types have kept the Dodger bats off balance. It happened just last night. Nelson has 5 pitches, uses them all, only walked one, only struck out two and his four seamer is short of 96. He held the Dodgers in check with average stuff. Where’s our that guy?

As I see it the problem with our pitching, simply put, is command.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Agree about throwing strikes. You can add control as a problem, too.

Bluto
Bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Ryne Nelson

SUMMARY Career

WAR 2.8
W 20
L 16
ERA 4.57
G 71
GS 57
SV 2
IP 344.1
SO 268
WHIP 1.29

Similar Pitchers to Ryne Nelson: 
Matt Manning
Jesse Chavez
Jose Berrios
Kolby Allard

Any of those make you feel “We need that guy”?

Last edited 21 days ago by Bluto
Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago

Austin Barnes officially released by the Dodgers. He is free to sign with any team as long as he has cleared waivers.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Hopefully he won’t clear waivers

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

He should clear easily, then a team could get him for MLB minimum instead of what he is owed.

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago

Ideas for subjects you might be interested in concerning the Dodgers are welcome.

bluto
bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I’m not sure how you would do it, but a look at the people who go to Dodger games has changed over the years.

look at “dodger killers” like Christian Walker could be fun.

I look back at the Dominican Academy.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  bluto

You are into fashion?

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago
Reply to  bluto

Great stuff Bluto.

Johnny Gentle
Johnny Gentle
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I always enjoy the prospect pieces.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I loved the Pacific Coast League before the Dodgers moved to LA and the Giants moved to SF. Padres, Angels, Stars, Seals, Solons, Beavers, Raineers, Mounties.

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

I will check into it.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
21 days ago

I don’t have much to add on pitching. The Dodgers will either get healthy or won’t or something great will fall into their laps. Pittsburgh could roll the dice by trading Skenes and if the players they got back didn’t pan out, not be any worse than they are now.

Speed is fun and can lead to wins. The Diamondbacks are a good team and have several speedy guys that are exciting. While I am not a Kim believer yet, he would be fun if he could get on base enough. Edman, while also fast, is not as fast as AZ’s Thomas and Carol. But Edman and Kim running more would be fun.

Freeland would add a lot more speed over Muncy. That probably will be a 2026 thing though. While I like Edman at second, I think the defense would be better with him in CF than Kim there. So, an outfield of Edman, Pages, and Hernandez and an infield that included Freeland and Kim would balance the power and speed of the offense.

And that balanced offense could be more fun to watch. Better? I don’t know.

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

Muncy should be a necessary replacement both for his fielding and slumping bat. He does try to be a 3Baseman, I’ll give him that, but a faster, stronger armed player is needed to cover the baseline, diving stops, and an arm that has control. You see him throwing to 1B inaccurately almost every game. It’s enough, I think. We’ve got plenty of bat power to not miss him.

Badger
Badger
21 days ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

I think the post season Dodgers roster was fully planned with the off season signings.

Will adjustments be necessary? Perhaps.

Speed is fun. Watching Carrol run from home to third on a double to right was exhilarating. Do we have anyone who can do that? In the minors I think we do. On the current roster? Kim, maybe. Haven’t seen it yet.

It’s doubtful the Pirates trade Skenes. I think their goal will be to move him right before Tommy John is needed. And that’s when the Dodgers will sweep in.

Last edited 21 days ago by Badger
Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

You’re a backer of AF’s walking wounded strategy?

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Good one Badger

Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Your last paragraph is exactly why I always look forward to your comments, Badger. That one brought a big smile to my face……………………until it was replaced by the frown when I realized it’s probably true.

Badger
Badger
21 days ago

Thanks Jefe. I appreciate it. We go back a ways, don’t we. Been enjoying your takes as well.

Last edited 21 days ago by Badger
philjones
philjones
21 days ago

Jeff D, wrote above “Ward should have been the call before Conforto. Then again, nobody expected Conforto to be this bad.”
I’m really not surprised by his poor performance so far.
“I watched him in high school, and at Oregon State where he was a star. He was an All-American, College Player of the Year, on the USA National Team and the 10th overall pick by the Mets 11 years ago.
He never became the hitter I thought he would be. MLB isn’t college baseball. He is a career .247 hitter but after missing all of 2022 with an injury, he has hit only .228/.716.
Maybe the Dodgers thought they could turn his sinking career around but that hasn’t happened for the $17 million for this season.
It is entirely possible that we are all waiting for a breakout that isn’t going to happen. I did. 

Last edited 21 days ago by philjones
Badger
Badger
21 days ago
Reply to  philjones

Conforto hasn’t been good since 2019 when he put up 3.6 WAR.

Help me out with something. Ryan Ward is hitting .318 and OPS’n .935. He’s hit 9 home runs. He’s the best hitter we have at AAA and he plays left field. Doesn’t he deserve a chance? And in looking at the Dodgers 40 man I don’t see his name on it. But LF Steward Berreo’s name is. He’s hitting .191. Who is Steward Berroa and why is he on the 40 and Ward isn’t? What am I missing?

Bluto
Bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Short answer:

Berroa is only temporarily on the 40 until some of the players move back from the 60. If he is lost, it’s no biggie. If Ward is put onto the 40 and then needs to come off of it, then the Dodgers may fear losing him.

Pure speculation, but it’s based on past 40 man manipulations. So maybe not “pure” speculation, but “quasi-informed.”

Cassidy
Cassidy
21 days ago
Reply to  Badger

Well it’s hard for any GM to admit a $17 mil mistake. As for Berroa, check his wife’s maiden name.

Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
21 days ago

Tonight’s starting outfield is Teo, Edman, Pages.

Conforto being held out so that he’ll be available to deliver the walk off hit in the 9th.

Bluto
Bluto
21 days ago

Or groundout to 2B no matter the situation, count or point in game.

Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
21 days ago
Reply to  Bluto

There’s something to be said for dependability and consistency.

Cassidy
Cassidy
21 days ago

Burnes vs Dodgers.
Not a fair fight! We better hope Diamondbacks and these starters don’t make it to October

Bluto
Bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  Cassidy

?

Cassidy
Cassidy
21 days ago
Reply to  Bluto

AF honesty about pitching injuries.
But I said this a lot, and I think anyone who doesn’t say it is not being honest, there’s a lot we don’t know about injury stuff, and I think it’s important not to pretend like we have all the answers. There’s a lot to it that is really challenging, and we’re hoping to continue to grow and learn from experiences and just try to make the smartest, best move we can, knowing we’re going to make mistakes.”
Friedman may not have the answers, but the lack of solutions surely won’t keep him from trying to get the most effective product on the field at all times. 

“It’s by far the No. 1 thing that keeps me up at night,” Friedman said.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
21 days ago

Outstanding effort from May. Very encouraging.

Keith
Keith
21 days ago
Reply to  OhioDodger

Nice Game, good to see Teoscar back, and that was a heck of a play Rojas made, coming from behind second base to the right field foul area on that pop up. Miggy is an easy guy to root for.

Michael Norris
Editor
21 days ago
Reply to  Keith

Yes he is

Jeff
Jeff
21 days ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Scott should shut up some critics.

Bluto
Bluto
21 days ago
Reply to  OhioDodger

Sweeper is developing nicely for him.

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