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Honoring Legends

                                       Since they moved to Los Angeles, the Dodgers have found more than a few ways to honor their Hall of Famers and team legends. The team first began retiring numbers in 1972. That year, three players were so honored, Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax and Roy Campanella. Walter Alston was next in 1977 after he retired from managing at the end of 1976. Jim Gilliam became the first non-Hall of Famer so honored when his number 19 was retired after his death in 1978.

                                     Duke Snider’s #4 was retired in 1980 after Duke’s election to the hall. Pee Wee followed in 1984. Don Drysdale’s 53 was retired the same day as Pee Wee’s. They also began a ring of honor around the press level at Dodger Stadium. Lasorda’s #2 was retired in 1997. Don Sutton’s #20 the next year. There is no set criteria for retiring a number, but outside of Gilliam, all of the honorees played the bulk of their careers with the Dodgers. It would be a while before the next retired number. Not until 2022 when Gil Hodges finally made the hall and they retired #14, much to the chagrin of Kike Hernandez. The last one retired was another non-Hall of Famer, Fernando Valenzuela, whose number 34 was retired in August of 2023. 10 players and 2 managers.  

                                  There is a very good chance that Kershaw’s #22 will be retired 5 years after he retires. He is pretty much a lock for the hall. Two broadcasters are honored in the Ring of Honor, Scully and Jarin. In 2019, the Dodgers started “Legends of Dodger Baseball”. The events were marked with a plaque and photo on a wall in Dodger Stadium and the fans got in on the whole thing with bobbleheads of the players honored. Last year they began awarding the player with a blue jacket with LA on the breast pocket. 

                               The first three were, Don Newcombe, Steve Garvey and Fernando in 2019. Next up in 2022, Kirk Gibson and Maury Wills. In 2023 they inducted Manny Mota and Orel Hershiser. In 24 it was Dusty Baker. This year the honoree was the Penguin, Ron Cey. There is always a nice ceremony pre-game on the day the player is honored. Teammates make speeches, and there are always a lot of fans cheering on their heroes.

                            Sometimes, like this year, a former teammate will take little shots of humor at the inductee. Mike Scioscia did that to Cey this year. Getting a bobblehead is a pretty big deal these days. Some fans have huge collections. I have over 100 myself. I was always irked that in 2018, the publicity department felt it necessary to replace Jim Gilliam’s bobblehead with a Manny Machado. Gilliam has still not been so honored, a travesty in my eyes. I never thought of Manny Machado as a Dodger. 

                        The other person on the Ring of Honor is Walter O’Malley. It was a big deal at the stadium the day that happened. Kershaw will most likely end up there, I would think Ohtani, Betts and Freeman too. Probably long after I am gone. But I have been lucky. With the exception of Jackie, Campy and Pee Wee, I saw all of the others play in person. Being a Dodger fan is a great thing. 

Michael Norris

Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear

Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear

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Sam Oyed
Sam Oyed
1 day ago

How did your first series of shots go?

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
1 day ago

Perhaps I’ve missed it… but have the Dodgers ever honored Randy Newman? They did a bobble head for Ice Cube, but “I Love LA” is the definitive anthem of a Dodgers victory.
I want a bobblehead of Randy Newman… with a big nasty redhead at his side.
And what about other non-baseball bobblehead possibilities?
They’ve honored Kobe…. so how about Magic, Kareem and maybe Shaq?

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
6 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Cool.. Great that Roger got honored.

Dionysus
Dionysus
23 hours ago

Roger the peanut vendor
Organ guy/Helen Dell
May Hart
AF in bathrobe

Scott Andes
18 hours ago
Reply to  Dionysus

Roger Owens (the peanut guy) would be cool. I met him back in the 90’s in his lodge section where he works. Dude is a legend. He even wrote a book.

Cassidy
Cassidy
23 hours ago
Reply to  Dionysus

Mark Timmons?

Badger
Badger
23 hours ago

The bottom half of that 4A lineup was 3 for 18 with 8 Ks. That includes Pages 0 for 3. Hernandez 0 for 4 and played RF like a sloth. 3 runs in Denver. A letdown after the Padres series? Yeah, maybe.

Yamamoto not sharp but what pitcher is at that altitude.

I think Rushing will figure it out eventually but probably not this year. Same is probably true with Freeland. Though they don’t miss Muncy’s play at third base they sure miss his bat.

It looks to me like the Dodgers have 3 DH’s in their lineup. Ohtani, Muncy and Teo. Freddie could be there soon as well.

Bobby
Bobby
22 hours ago
Reply to  Badger

Yamamoto not sharp?? I clearly watched a different game than you did.

That was one of his best pitching jobs of the year. 7 innings in that park, 4 hits, 6k. 1 Colorado home run, and then a few bloop hits and terrible defense by Teo cost him 2 runs.

Yamamoto was fantastic last night till he almost ran out of gas in the 7th. He deserved a win, and our bad defense and horrible offense did not help him out.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
18 hours ago
Reply to  Bobby

I agree with you Bobby. He had 12 swings and misses, 9 on the curve (9 out of 16 swings), 2 on the splitter and 1 on the 4-seamer. With a different RF, he gives up the solo HR to Tovar, who hits Yamamoto extremely well, and that is it. I am not sure how you can do better in Coors than that. I guess unless you are Hideo Nomo.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
20 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Righties aren’t hitting lefties throughout MLB

Badger
Badger
21 hours ago
Reply to  Bobby

What I meant Bobby was that his stuff wasn’t working there like it typically does. In one of the best hitters parks in the league Colorado is one of the worst hitting teams in all of baseball. They are at the top of the league in strikeouts, and Yamamoto only struck out 6 in 7 innings. The Rockies were making contact and it’s my opinion had Yamamoto been pitching at sea level they wouldn’t have.

And the Dodgers defense is a topic of discussion that deserves a thread of its own. They need a real Major League right fielder (they actually have one who is playing shortstop) they need a better third baseman, who is the second baseman on this team and in spite of his bailing Mookie out on all those off line throws Freddie Freeman is at the bottom of the league in OAA for a first baseman. The Dodgers defense is weak all over. Nobody backs up bases, cutoffs are often mismanaged and many throws from the outfield have been embarrassingly off line. I’ve played and coached defenses from Little League to Jr College and all levels of tournament softball. I know what good defense looks like and I don’t see it on this Dodgers team.

NH Dodger
NH Dodger
17 hours ago
Reply to  Badger

It is a feature of this Dodger team and not a bug. Their outfield defense in the corners with Conforto and Hernandez is abysmal. In my opinion, Hernadez should have thrown to second on the first bloop single – especially in Coors Field. When Edman is back, play Edman in center and Pages in right. Teo and Conforto can mix and match in left field.
In the off-season, move on from Conforto and move Teo to a team needing a DH. I also agree with your insight on Freeman. There has been some regression both at the plate and in the field. It happens to everyone at some age.
I hope that this FO, regardless of how this turns out this year, puts a higher premium on defense when constructing next year’s team. I believe at some point poor defense (and your experience with coaching relays, cut-offs, backing up, and throwing to the proper base is much more than mine) like we see most nights will get you beat at some point in the playoffs.

SandyAmoros
SandyAmoros
20 hours ago
Reply to  Badger

Amen. Just not a priority unfortunately.

Bobby
Bobby
20 hours ago
Reply to  SandyAmoros

I really think now, regardless of how the season finishes out, that we trade Teo this offseason. That defense doesn’t play in RF, and likely won’t play in LF either.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
20 hours ago
Reply to  Bobby

Yes. I was all for trading him at this year’s deadline

Jeff Dominique
Admin
16 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Bear, I disagree with you on this one. I think there is a very real chance Teoscar Hernández gets traded this winter. He is a DH at this stage of his career. He can be just as valuable as JDM was. The Dodgers will have to eat some of the contract or package him with another prospect, but they cannot continue to hemorrhage runs against because of his play in RF. It wasn’t just last night. Teo has been pulling up on every ball hit in front of him since he has returned from the groin injury. I am not certain he is healthy. He is not seeing the ball of the bat. He went back on at least two balls yesterday and had to recover and sprint forward to make the catch. Right now, Teoscar is a liability in the OF. If the Dodgers did not already have Shohei, Teo could DH. His bat is still valuable.

His contract really is not that onerous for the next club. His salary for 2025 and 2026 is $14.71MM and $16.92MM respectively. His deferrals are $7.5MM in 2025, and $8.0MM for 2026 and 2027. The Dodgers could easily agree to pay the deferral for 2025 and half of the next two years. If you consider the deferrals as part of the salary, it would be a 2.34 fWAR and 2.62 fWAR for 2026 and 2027 for Teo to justify his salary. That is not unreasonable, especially for a bat that has a decent ceiling. He had a 3.4 fWAR last year even with his poor defense.

As has been pointed out, Teo really is not a good defensive LF either. But his bat plays. And there are some teams in desperate need of a good DH. The problem is that the Dodgers do not have any MLB ready OF in their system, so it will still be a patchwork OF next year. And maybe the Dodgers have to take that into consideration. But IMO, his contract should not be a deterrent for a trade.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
11 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I never said the Dodgers should release Teo and eat 2/3 of his $66MM deal. I suggested a trade where the Dodgers eat half of the 2026 and 2027 deferred amonnts. The $$$ the Dodgers lost on the release of CT3 and Austin Barnes would be less than what I suggested for the Dodgers to send back on a Teoscar trade, not release. They lost $3MM-$4MM last year on Jason Heyward. Do you really think that there aren’t any teams who would agree to a 2 year $30MM deal for a guy capable of hitting 30 HR and 100 RBI? NYY does not need a DH. NYM might. Philadelphia might (if they lose SChwarber). Atlanta might (they are losing Ozuna). Boston might. What if they could put something together with Boston to get Jarren Duran or Ceddanne Rafaela? He would flourish in Sacramento. Teams trade players with contracts all the time. Sometimes $$$ go with them. Sometimes a top prospect is attached.

I am not saying the Dodgers will trade him. I am saying it is a possiblility. If he is not traded and retained by LAD, it will be because they believe he will help the team more than what they think they can get in a trade. It will not be because they are afraid of losing $$$.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
8 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Hopefully LF.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
17 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I’m well aware of his contract. Do you ever not assume someone is less enlightened as you think you are?

I don’t expect to get everything I want or ask for and obviously that can be a good thing. For instance I wanted Kwan in LF, Outman in CF, and Pages in RF.

Bobby
Bobby
16 hours ago
Reply to  Bumsrap

Yes, guys who have contracts can still be traded. Shocking, I know.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
13 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I liked what Bobbie posted and basically gave him my support. Quite the concept, right?

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
12 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I will give AF a pass on Conforto. I was a calculated risk that hasn’t panned out. The mistake is not cutting him and moving on. I think the bigger mistake was signing a DH to play RF for 3 years at $22M/year.

Jorge Valenzuela
Jorge Valenzuela
20 hours ago

Does anyone know about the new proposal for team alignment, or is it just an idea from journalists? Because it really does look interesting, although of course, any new development is interesting until it isn’t.
I just read that this would be with two expansion teams: Charlotte and Nashville.

MIDWEST
Cubs
White Sox
Brewers
Twins

SOUTHWEST
Astros
Royals
Cardinals
Rangers

PACIFIC COAST
Rockies
Athletics
Mariners
Giants

WEST
Dodgers
Angels
Padres
Diamondbacks

EAST
Red Sox
Mets
Yankees
Phillies

NORTH
Reds
Guardians
Tigers
Blue Jays

MID-ATLANTIC
Orioles
Charlotte (Expansion)
Pirates
Nationals

SOUTHWEST
Braves
Marlins
Nashville (Expansion)
Rays

Ron Fairly fan
Ron Fairly fan
18 hours ago

This is a proposal by Jim Bowden from 2023. There is a new proposal in the Athletic that continues to use American and National leagues.

AL EAST
Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Toronto Blue Jays

AL WEST
Las Vegas Athletics
Los Angeles Angels
Salt Lake City or Portland***
Seattle Mariners

AL NORTH
Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Guardians
Detroit Tigers
Minnesota Twins

AL SOUTH
Colorado Rockies**
Houston Astros*
Kansas City Royals*
Texas Rangers*

*changed division
**changed league
***expansion team

NL EAST
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates*
Washington Nationals

NL WEST
Arizona Diamondbacks
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants

NL NORTH
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Milwaukee Brewers
St. Louis Cardinals

NL SOUTH
Atlanta Braves*
Miami Marlins*
Nashville or Raleigh***
Tampa Bay Rays**
*changed division
**changed league
***expansion team

at this point it’s all speculation but given a choice I like keeping the American and National leagues not a fan of East and West

Last edited 18 hours ago by Ron Fairly fan
John
John
19 hours ago

Just for the sake of discussion, Las Vegas, Arizona and Colorado would make sense. I will sorry for the teams with the Giants and Seattle in their division due to traveling. The Mid Atlantic and the Southwest would be awful.

good luck to anyone in charge of aligning the divisions.

philjones
philjones
19 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

As a baseball fan and semi-historian, I do not favor breaking up the National and American Leagues. Manfred is trying to shove his agendas down peoples throats; dissolve the leagues, adding two expansion teams in Nashville and Charlotte, I would guess at public tax payers expense. Is there an appetite for that? Vegas didn’t want to finance a stadium. Why should we assume these 2 cities want to? And adding two more owners with huge start up expenses when there are too many current owners who pinch pennies already, just adds to the problem.
Manfred is visiting all the teams lobbying for a salary cap, another ill fated proposal that will lead to a lock-out. And while he has all these progressive agendas to leave his footprint, he has been tardy on installing the needed ABS System. He has decided that the Challenge System is the way to go.
I personally don’t think baseball is broken but apparently ole Rob does.

Last edited 19 hours ago by philjones
Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
18 hours ago
Reply to  philjones

Manfred has no agenda except to serve as a mouthpiece for the owners.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
17 hours ago

Last nights loss was extremely disappointing for a couple of reasons. The offense could not bust the game open when it had the opportunity against a pitcher with an ERA over 5. The poor defense in RF really hurt and is not tolerable going forward.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
17 hours ago

Per the LA Times, there was reportedly a meeting with Mookie, Doc, and AF after last night’s game. Gee, I wonder what that discussion was about. Could there be a change coming?

Claude Osteen
Claude Osteen
16 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Can’t happen, you have told us continuously that it won’t. Most others are the ones that are wrong.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
13 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Yep Bear, probably not a good idea to move Mookie back to RF at this point. The best case scenario in my view is Edman to come back healthy and take over in CF. Pages to RF, Teo to LF, and DFA Conforto.

philjones
philjones
12 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Excuse me but when I mentioned a couple of days ago about giving Ward a chance instead of dropping guys like Kennedy on his head, you pointed out how he isn’t on the 40 man roster and that I should bring it up with AF. I believe your exact suggestion to me was “I suggest you submit your disproval to AF”.
Do you happen to have his number?

Last edited 12 hours ago by philjones
OhioDodger
OhioDodger
13 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

😃 I would love to see that. He can’t be any worse than Conforto.

Jeff Dominique
Admin
17 hours ago

With his start in Colorado on Thursday, Clayton Kershaw will max out his 2025 contract at $16MM from the $7.5MM original guarantee.

Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
17 hours ago

With Teo’s play in RF, the entire internet is talking about how to remedy that situation this morning.

I absolutely don’t think it’s lack of hustle and much more likely that he’s playing through some sort of injury or he’s a not-very-good outfielder who is now one year older, or possibly some combination of both.

Here’s a link to a post by Dodger podcast guy Jeff Snider, presenting what I think is a pretty good analysis from both sides (leave Mookie at short/move Mookie to RF).

Ron Fairly fan
Ron Fairly fan
17 hours ago

I agree with him moving Mookie to right creates more problems than it solves right now. If Mookie is in right the every day infield is Freeman, Rojas at second, Freeland at short and Kennedy at third. The defense would probably be the best it’s been all season but that’s a lot of weak offense. With no one on the bench if someone gets hurt Mookie goes back to short. I think I’d rather see Dean get a shot in center instead of Kennedy getting every day at bats.

Sam Oyed
Sam Oyed
16 hours ago

While Teo doesn’t seem to be doing well in RF, there us this:

As a left fielder last season, Hernández finished with -8 Outs Above Average (OAA) and had an 84% success rate.
In right field this year, Hernández is at -8 OAA and boasts an 85% success rate.

so much for defensive metrics.

Last edited 16 hours ago by Sam Oyed
norcaldodgerfan
16 hours ago

This is probably the most critical I have ever heard Doc when speaking about player performance. He basically called Teo out….now lets see if it works.

philjones
philjones
15 hours ago

Some random thoughts:

*Teoscar just can’t seem to have an ability to come in on flairs to right. He may be injured, nobody knows the problem, but it’s hurting the defense. Here’s an unconventional idea. Put him in left. His arm plays better there and due to the propensity of right-handed bats in line ups usually, the shortstop ie Mookie, plays more conventionally aligned in the 6-hole. From there, he can assist in tracking down the flairs that Teo isn’t getting to. Mookie is obviously great at going back on pop ups and flairs. With the second baseman frequently aligned up the middle with RHHs, it’s too far to run to get to flairs in right. Teo is left on his own and those boops fall in front of Teo. Maybe a shift to left would give him some help from a gifted outfielder playing shortstop. It’s a thought if the Dodgers want Teo’s bat in the lineup and possibly better defense.

*Wash my mouth out with soap but I would suggest a sac bunt or a safety squeeze with the bottom of the order we had yesterday. There were several opportunities, even early in the game, when it’s not usually considered. But I would with consider trying to manufacture something with this group because with the exception of Rojas, these guys can’t hit. Kennedy struck out swing in the 2nd before Rushings sac fly. A safety squeeze by Kennedy with guys on 2nd and 3rd seems, like a good play. Score a cheap run and another on Rushing’s sac fly.

*I’ve had coaches who would have gone ape-shit when Call rolled over a 1&1 pitch to short and a double play with runners at first and second. You have to get a pitch to lift or go opposite field until you get to 2 strikes.

*12 Stikeouts last night against the Rockies pitching is too many. Rushing had 2 k’s caught looking and 1 swinging. I’m telling you, if I’m a newbie trying to take advantage of my call-up, I an NOT taking called third strikes. It’s a good possibility that they didn’t bring you up to walk. I’m certainly trying to swing at strikes. But with 2 strikes, I’m getting my hack of anything close. Same goes for Pages.

*I guess hitting in the PCL is easy. When the AAA guys come up they seem to miss mid 90’s fastballs that they had to be hit in AAA. How do you miss or worse yet take a hittable pitches consistently, that were also thrown in MiLB?

*Call, Kennedy, Rushing all look tentative. Like they’re afraid to free up and get a hack. It’s a mindset, pre-pitch. The aggressive hitter think every pitch is a strike until it isn’t. It’s Yes-Yes-Yes. Yes to pitch recognition, yes to location and YES I’m ready and I’m swing. Conversely, our young guys end with a NO in this process. Yes-Yes-No. They get a pitch and don’t pull the trigger. It’s apprehension. It’s being tentative. Too much thinking and not enough swinging.

*I’m not a fan of our hitting philosophy and not a fan of the approach taught by RSV. And we strikeout way to much for me.

Last edited 15 hours ago by philjones
OhioDodger
OhioDodger
13 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I agree with you. Teo could use an IL stint.

philjones
philjones
12 hours ago
Reply to  OhioDodger

Really Ohio? And who would you put in the outfield during Teo’s IL stint? Pretty critical time to be replacing his bat despite his poor outfield play. We don’t need more AB’s by guys who can’t hit.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
11 hours ago
Reply to  philjones

I don’t think he wouldl go on the IL until Edman is back.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
15 hours ago
Reply to  philjones

I am also not a fan of RSV and his approach to hitting.

Sam Oyed
Sam Oyed
13 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Not surprised. Most likely Betts hasn’t taken any reps in RF so he would need some days to get ready. Curious to see what happens by Thursday or the San Diego series.

Ron Fairly fan
Ron Fairly fan
11 hours ago
Cassidy
Cassidy
10 hours ago
Reply to  Ron Fairly fan

If only Gomber could pitch against us once a week! Poor Pages can’t even hit at Coors field. He may be the first big leaguer ever to be platooned home and away

Wayne
Wayne
6 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

It would sure solve the Conforto problem if Call uses this game as a stepping stone to be the permanent left fielder for the rest of the season.

Wayne
Wayne
1 hour ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Unfortunately, Call is not a left-handed bat.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
8 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Nice effort by Sheehan. Would have been a great effort had he not given up the homers. But for Coors Field it was pretty good.

Ron Fairly fan
Ron Fairly fan
5 hours ago

Yates 1 inning 0 H 0 R 1BB 1 K
Scott 1 inning 0 H 0 R 1BB 2 Ks
Miller 1 inning 1 H 1 R 1 BB 2 Ks

Bullpen is starting to get healthy

Jeff Dominique
Admin
5 hours ago
Reply to  Ron Fairly fan

Miller’s run was unearned.

dodgerram
dodgerram
4 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

I am making a wild prediction: Bobby Miller will be the 2020 version of Julio Urias for the 2025 Dodgers in the postseason.

Has Kopech had a setback in his rehab ?

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dodgerram
dodgerram
4 hours ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Emil Morales with another HR, his 4th of the year with RC , going 2-4 with a BB. Now batting .329. Great first year for him in the USA.

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!

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