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Present Dodgers With Hall of Fame Credentials.

                                                     The Hall of Fame is the ultimate honor for a baseball player. There are currently 59 players, executives, managers, and broadcasters who spent some or all of their careers associated with the Dodgers. 10 of those players have had their numbers retired by the Dodgers. Others, like Zack Wheat, Dazzy Vance and Burleigh Grimes played before teams issued numbers to players. Two managers, Alston and Lasorda were mainly in Los Angeles. Wilbert Robinson is the only manager in the Hall who spent his entire managing career in Brooklyn. 

                                                      After last season, Clayton Kershaw retired after 18 seasons with the Dodgers. That tied him with Bill Russell and Zack Wheat as the longest tenured players in Dodger history. Of course, if Pee Wee Reese did not lose 3 full seasons to WWII, he would be the all-time leader. Vin Scully by far spent the longest time of anyone with the organization, 67 years. Lasorda had well over 50 years with the team. Kershaw most pundits agree will be a first ballot Hall of Famer. The question is, who on the present roster is worthy of consideration?

                                                      I can think of three who presently have enough time and have impressive stats. The first is Freddie Freeman. Freeman is entering his fifth year of a six-year deal. He has already put up some impressive numbers. His career line is .300/367/1322. 33 homers from 400, a little over 500 hits from 3000, which would almost guarantee induction, 53 doubles away from 600. 9-time All-Star, 3 silver slugger awards, an MVP, 1 gold glove and he was 2nd in the ROY vote his rookie season with the Braves.

                                                      He is about as consistent as you could ask for. A good defensive 1st baseman despite just having 1 gold glove. He is a team leader in the clubhouse. He also has two of the more famous World Series homers in Dodger history. His game 1 walk off grand slam in extra innings in 2024, and his walk off solo shot in the 18th inning of game three last season. Both of those he hit on a bum ankle. He played through it in 24 playoffs and tweaked it early in 25 and played through it again. He also played through the serious illness of his sone Maximus in 24. The man is simply a gamer, and one of the best in the game. He is also a very clutch hitter. 

                                                    Freeman is a .332 hitter with runners in scoring position. His OPS in those situations in .994. He has slugged 80 homers and driven in 905 in those situations. He hits .322 with men on base. He has hit .319 with 2 outs in that situation. Freeman has two full seasons left on his contract. He says he wants to play 4 more years; the question is will the Dodgers extend him 2 more years? I believe they might, depending on how he performs in this his age 36 season. He turns 37 in September. Freeman will be in a new spot in the batting order this year with the addition of Tucker, he will be hitting 4th.

                                                    He has experience there from when he was with the Braves, 192 starts, .294 BA in 739 at bats. He also stated in an interview that he is totally healthy this spring and glad to have a full spring to get ready. He also said one of his goals is to hit .300 or higher again. I think he will be able to do it. He hit 24 homers last year; I think he should come close to that number again. The most he has hit in LA is 29 in 23. He should be by the end of the year, in range to pass 400 next season. He should also get at least close to his career average of 181 hits, closing the gap on 3000. My guess, he gets inducted possibly on the first ballot.

                                                    Next on the list would be Mookie Betts. Mookie has 7 years left on the deal he signed just prior to the 2020 season. By the time his contract is up, Mookie will have been a Dodger twice as long as he was in Boston. Some of his numbers as a Dodger are not as good as in Boston. His BA as a Red Sox player was .301 with a .893 OPS. His BA in LA is ,278 with a .863 OPS. But Dodger stadium is not as friendly to RH hitters as Fenway is. His strikeout to walk ratio is almost identical for both teams.

                                                     Mookie hasn’t stolen nearly as many bases, 126-70. He has homered more, 152-139, but has fewer RBIs, 470-443. Betts has 291 career homers; he will easily pass 300 this year. If he comes close to his average of 31, he will be in the 320 range after the season. If he averages just 20 a year after that through the end of his deal he will finish with about 420 homers, and a little over 1500 RBIs. he has an MVP award, 7 silver sluggers, 8 All-Star selections and 6 gold gloves. 

                                                   He is a leader in the clubhouse and on the field. He also transitioned from RF to SS full time last year and had -17 defensive runs saved. Tied for first in the majors. That in and of itself is pretty amazing since transitioning to a position like SS is difficult enough without being that good at it. He practices long and hard. His offense suffered last season not because of the position change, but mostly due to him getting ill during the team’s trip to Japan to open the season. He still managed to hit 20 homers while striking out just 68 times in 589 at bats. 

                                                     With the addition of Tucker, Roberts has decided to change the batting order around. He is abandoning the left-right formula they used so much last season. The top four in the order will look like this, Ohtani, Tucker, Betts, Freeman. Betts has had some experience in the 3-hole. It was a while ago, but his career line is .267/11/41. His OPS out of that slot is .801. Mookie has dedicated himself to improving from last season’s career lows. As bad as the year was for him, he still finished with a WAR of 4.9. Above all else, the man is a professional and his own biggest critic.

                                                       The third man on the list is no surprise to anyone, especially Dodger fans: Shohei Ohtani. Shohei is the Unicorn. He was getting Hall of Fame hype from the time he signed his first MLB deal simply because he is a pure two-way player. He spent the first 6 seasons with the Angels and piled up some impressive stats.  Yet he and Mike Trout could not get the Angels back into the playoffs, so heading into the 24 season, he still had not appeared in post season play. 

                                                     His line as an Angel, .274/177/437. OPS .922. He earned two MVP awards, a ROY, and 3 All-star selections. He finished 4th in the Cy Young voting in 2022 and was 2nd in the MVP vote that year or he would have five MVPs in a row. It was not a close vote because Aaron Judge had a massive offensive season. Now that he will be pitching pretty much from the beginning of the year, he will once again be a full-time two-way player. Dodger fans have been looking forward to this ever since he signed with the team prior to the 24 season.

                                                     Let us look at what his stats look like after 8 seasons in the majors. His batting line is .282/280/669. OPS is at .957 and his OPS+ is 160. with 8 full years left on his deal, it is doubtful that Ohtani will reach his season averages over the last two or three years of his contract. That being said, I would think he is still on pace to slug over 500 homers and drive in close to 1500 runs. Ohtanis is like many power hitters, a huge strike out man. He has averaged 176 Ks a season, and he walks a little less than half of that total. 

                                                    Shohei is also very streaky. When he gets hot, he virtually can put the team on his back. His two years in blue have been excellent. He has slugged 109 homers, setting and then passing the teams season high leadership. 54 in 2024, 55 in 25. With him now having more of a permanent role in the rotation, I would expect that number to drop a little. Of course, he could surprise us all and mash even better. His best combined year as a pitcher and a hitter was 2022. He hit .274/34/95. He was 15-9 as a pitched with a 2.33 ERA. In 21, he was 9-2 and slugged 46 homers and drove in 100 runs. 

                                                    I am pretty sure most Dodger fans would love those kinds of numbers. His OPS as a Dodger is over 1.000. He has scored 280 runs in two years and driven in 232. He has made up for lost time in playoff play. He has hit 11 homers in 33 games which ties him with Duke Snider, who led in post-season homers until Justin Turner passed him a couple of years ago. The leader now is Muncy with 16. Ohtani has really shined in NLCS play, .361/5/10. He has actually walked more 12 in LCS play than he has struck out 11. Overall, he is a .248 hitter in post season play, but I would expect him to improve on that.

                                                 Now, are any of these three first ballot guys? That is up to the writers. I would think if he continued as a top-of-the-line DH and pitcher, Shohei would be that easily. You listen to today’s baseball pundits and the praise they heap on the guy is non-stop. I also think Freddie will get a lot of first ballot play. In my mind, Mookie should also, but I do believe that this is a very important season for him to show he can bounce back from his worst offensive season. I hope they all make it. Ohtani and Betts would be locks to be inducted with the LA logo on their caps. Freeman would be a tossup, unless LA wins another championship or two with Freddie on board.                                                        

 

Michael Norris

Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear

Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear

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Dionysus
Dionysus
1 month ago

Will Smith on pace to be among the best catchers ever to don the blue.

Keith
Keith
1 month ago
Reply to  Dionysus

Catcher is a tough position to make the HOF from

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
1 month ago
Reply to  Keith

A few more rings will help…
He was certainly a hero in the ’25 series.

Last edited 1 month ago by Duke Not Snider
Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Buster Posey was as good a catcher and leader as any I saw during the previous decade. A Hall of Fame candidate? Absolutely. Is Smith that good?

Jeff Dominique
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Will Smith has been the primary (almost exclusive) catcher in 3 WS runs. Last year he sat out the WC series against the Reds. He finished up both Game 1 and 2 in the NLDS against Philadelphia. And then caught ever inning of the remainder of the playoffs.

Smith set a MLB record of catching 73 innings in the World Series. Smith is also the only player in MLB history to hit a HR in extra innings in a winner take all Game 7 WS. Consider he had caught 72 innings before coming up in the 11th, and hit a HR. That does not seem humanly possible.

Also consider that once he entered Game 2 of the NLDS, Smith caught the next 133 innings, including 3 extra-inning games, through the WS. In the WS, Smith hit .267/.353/.533/.886, 2 doubles, 2 HR, 3 BB, 8 K, in 34 PA.

Dodger hero and LAD Ring of Honor player? Yes. MLB HOF, not yet. For players who started their careers post 1960, there have been 8 catchers inducted, and one of those was voted in by Veteran’s Committee (Ted Simmons).

Johnny Bench (10X GG) (2X MVP)
Yogi Berra (3X MVP)
Gary Carter
Carlton Fisk
Mike Piazza (Career leader in HR as a catcher)
Pudge Rodríguez (Career leader in games caught) (13X GG) (1X MVP)
Joe Mauer (1 X MVP)
Ted Simmons (Played 20 years)

Buster Posey should be the next catcher to go into the HOF. In 12 seasons, Posey was a 7X All-Star, 5X SS, 1 Batting Title, 1X GG, ROY, MVP, 5 other seasons with MVP votes. With 5,607 PA, Posey hit .302/.372/.460/.831, 158 HR, 729 RBI, 540 BB, 721 K (12.9%). Those numbers are not as lofty as are the others. While considered a plus defensive catcher, he is not at the same level as most of the above, not named Mike Piazza.

However, Piazza was ROY, 12X AS, 10X SS with a line of .308/.377/.545/.922. He also leads all catchers with career HR with 399 (as a catcher). Fisk is #2, Bench #3, Berra #4, Rodríguez #6, Carter #7.

Last catcher to be elected was Joe Maurer who hit .306/.388/.439/.827, MVP, 6X All Star, 3 GG, 3 Batting Titles.

Not doing a great deal of in depth research, perhaps the best catcher to not make HOF is the Tigers’ Lance Parrish. Parrish played 19 years and was 8x All Star, 6X SS, and 3X GG. Can Will Smith reach those levels? If he does, he would match Parrish, but not the others.

The Dodgers will take the Will Smith that may not reach the levels of MVP, batting title, GG, or SS, but is the catcher with 3 WS rings. Will is tied with Posey, 1 behind Jorge Posada (4), and 7 behind Yogi Berra (10).

Dionysus
Dionysus
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I don’t do HOF spec but might be a “count the rings” guy.

Two more isn’t being greedy 🙂

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
1 month ago
Reply to  Dionysus

More! More!

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Rings don’t play into it for me. Rings are a team award. There are a number of great players without rings, and there are also a number of replacement level players with rings. I’m looking at stats. Posey has them, offensively and defensively. Smith will too if he hangs in there another 5 years.

Bobby
Bobby
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Agree with that; Will Smith definitely has a pass to the Hall of Fame if his production lasts another 5 years.

Not a lock like Shohei etc, but definitely has a path.

Dionysus
Dionysus
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Interesting. Had not heard. Not good enough! Advantage Freeland 😉

Jeff Dominique
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

My heart is with Freeland, but you cannot ignore what Espinal has done this dpring. He is a former All-Star with a great glove who can play 2B and 3B, while not elite speed it is plus speed, and as Bear mentioned, he is hitting extremely well.

Kim did well when he was in camp, so there is no decision even close right now. IMO, Korea will battle Austrailia for the runnerup to Japan in Pool C. If they do not reach the quarterfinals, Kim’s last game in Korea will be March 11. If they do reach the quarterfinals, I do not think they beat either of Venezuela or the Dominican Republic so his last game will be March 13 or 14.

So, if you are pulling for Team Korea, you hope they stay in it to the end. If you are thinking of Dodgers, Team Korea is out after Pool C play.

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

Freeland, Espinal, Rojas, Edman, Kim, Hernandez, Senzel.

There just isn’t room for all of them. Rojas, Edman and Hernandez are on the team come summer. Call is the 4th outfielder. Rushing is backup catcher.

A few somebodies has got to go.

Duke Not Snider
Duke Not Snider
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Edman + Kike can play OF.

philjones
philjones
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Spot on Badger. I’m not a big Kim fan just yet but my mind is open.
I understand Kike’s popularity and track record, but to me I didn’t like his re-signing. I think his ship has sailed and he will be kept at the expense of a better player be it Espinal, Freeland or Senzel.
Kike’s defense was valuable down the stretch but for me, Mr. October’s, Sept and Oct of .213/.650 didn’t cut it.
His season of .203/621 don’t light my fire with the others vying for the job. Again, how many utility guys do you need and how many 2nd basemen can you play at a time?

Last edited 1 month ago by philjones
OhioDodger
OhioDodger
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Clearly we did not need to bring Kike back. Just gotta hope he rebounds from his injuries and has a productive season. Have to trust AF’s judgement on this as he is a baseball savant and greatest GM/POBO in history according to some out there.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Senzel is also looking good.

OhioDodger
OhioDodger
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Is Senzel out of options??

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  OhioDodger

I’m still going with Kim.

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Kim grounded out sharply 3 times, spraying the ball to first, second and short, getting an RBI on the ball to short. He also walked once. He was clean on defense and involved in two double plays.

And how do I know all three ground balls were well struck? Because I’m the one that’s making it up.

Dionysus
Dionysus
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Haha

Cassidy
Cassidy
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Just a heartbreaking story. Who wouldn’t want to be part of this organization?!

Jeff Dominique
Admin
1 month ago

While not a player, Dave Roberts seems to be a lock for HOF as a manager.

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Dominique

While that’s probably true, I think you could win with this team. Seriously. Make out the lineup putting 4 Hall of Famers and Tucker at the top, start whoever is up next, rotate the 9 guys in the bullpen skillfully and if you have any questions just ask Lehmann what to do

I read somewhere the best managers in baseball are only worth 2-3 WAR. So even if you were a replacement level manager you could still win 95 games with this group.

Go get ‘em kid.

Last edited 1 month ago by Badger
OhioDodger
OhioDodger
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

The team makes the manager. Joe Torre sucked before inheriting the Yankee lineup. LaRussa wasn’t so hot much of his career with lesser talented teams.

Bobby
Bobby
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Doc is as much of a lock for the Hall as Shohei and Kershaw are.

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Bobby

I’m a Roberts fan. I think everyone here probably knows that. I do have to ask, in 10 years of managing, and with the highest winning percentage in MLB history, why only 1 Manager of the Year Award? Could it be lack of respect because with the highest payroll in the game he’s expected to win? And if so, how might that affect HOF votes?

Dionysus
Dionysus
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

I could win with this roster.

Cassidy
Cassidy
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Looking back, it’s very possible that Roberts might have been fired if Padres had won game 4 or 5 in 2024 divisional series. He had to have been a bit concerned game 4 in SD with a bullpen game.

Bobby
Bobby
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Yes, much like Phil Jackson, who only won 1 Coach of the Year despite winning 11 rings.

Etiher way, today’s lineup is quite hideous, yet I’m mad we’re losing.

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Bobby

Hang in there Bobby. This could be a football score before it’s over.

Last edited 1 month ago by Badger
Singing the Blue
Singing the Blue
1 month ago

The more I see of George the more I’m reminded of Maury Wills. Too bad he’s not still around to mentor him. That single he slapped to left today was exactly the way Wills used to do it. I’m becoming more convinced that George might just hit enough to be a regular on an MLB team. Not likely to be this team but you never know.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
1 month ago

I agree

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Just not the Dodgers.

Dionysus
Dionysus
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Haha yes

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Dionysus

I’m not so sure. Espinal is 31 with a MLB history. He was good at age 27 but over the last two years, over 700 at bats, he has a negative WAR. I wonder how good he will be against proven Major League starters night after night.

That said, somebody has to take Edman and Kiké’s place for a few weeks. If he stays hot, it could be him.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

The Dodgers have enough offense and pitching to give Freeland experience in the MLB until Edman returns.

Dionysus
Dionysus
1 month ago
Reply to  Badger

Well, we have multiple guys. Freeland is ready now but we’re in killer mode and if we can add an Espinal while keeping Freeland in AAA, that will be the play. No time for hurt feelings on the march to destiny. Tonight, we dine in hell!

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

He can walk his way to a high OPS.

simonkiller
simonkiller
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I agree, but with the roster getting older, giving a young player a chance to get big league reps is a positive.

Bklyn2la57
Bklyn2la57
1 month ago

Espinal should make the team and start at second, but I don’t make the decisions. Freeland doesn’t impress me. Typical AAAA player.

When I think about Will Smith two words come to mind: old school. He may not go to the hall, but he will be an all time Dodger when it’s all said and done.

Doc is on his way to Cooperstown in my opinion. Some believe it’s harder to win when you’re expected to. Doc is the ultimate leader, the perfect leader for this team.

Badger
Badger
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

I get the WBC, but high leverage games in early March seem like a bad idea for those being paid millions to play till October.

Roberts expects?

Last edited 1 month ago by Badger
Bobby
Bobby
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

It also doesn’t really matter whatsoever who makes the team March 28.

That will change 30 times over the course of 162 and when we get to October.

Bumsrap
Bumsrap
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Starting with salary

simonkiller
simonkiller
1 month ago
Reply to  Bobby

This is correct. Like lineup order or rotation sequence, it doesn’t really matter much in the aggregate.

Cassidy
Cassidy
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael Norris

Will anyone watch?

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