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Did Scott Boras Get Schooled This Offseason?

Prior to the Cody Bellinger signing with the Cubs, we were heading into the final week of February, with all teams playing at least one Spring Training game.  The top 5 remaining free agents at that time were all Scott Boras clients:

  • Cody Bellinger
  • Blake Snell
  • Jordan Montgomery
  • Matt Chapman
  • JD Martinez

The Dodgers, Phillies, Braves, and Cardinals jumped out the gate with multiple moves.  The Phillies set the bar for 30+ year old elite pitchers, signing their own FA RHP, Aaron Nola, to a 7 year $172MM contract on 11/19/2023.

The Braves did not make noise with signing elite free agents, but they did take on bad contracts to be able to trade for desirable players.

  • Jarred Kelenic
  • Chris Sale
  • Aaron Bummer
  • David Fletcher – NRI expected to make team

Although, Atlanta did sign Reynaldo López on FA contract, and Luis Guillorme.

St. Louis immediately jumped on Kyle Gibson (11/21/2023), Lance Lynn (11/21/2023), and Sonny Gray (11/27/2023).

But the Dodgers broke the standard by signing Shohei Ohtani and Yoshi Yamamoto, and committing to more than $1 Billion in salaries.  Scott Boras was giddy.  He could see the $$$$ mount. If Ohtani is worth $700MM, then Belli has to be worth north of $250MM.  If a pitcher who has never pitched a MLB game gets a record $325MM contract, just how much is 2-time CY winner Blake Snell and WS Champion, Jordan Montgomery worth?

Earlier last week, some baseball journalists were pontificating which of the top four free agents would entertain a short term contract.  It was opined that Snell (31), Montgomery (31), and Chapman (31) had already passed the age to take short term deals, and were looking for that one last big deal.  OTOH, Bellinger is playing at baseball age 28, and should be able to get another bite at the apple with a short term contract this year.

Thus, Bellinger broke the stalemate, but it sure was not close to that $250MM+ contract Boras was pushing.  $80MM for 3 years is a tad south of $27MM per year.   It is a good AAV, but teams are not going to go 9 figures and long term for a questionable Cody Bellinger.

Why are teams so sheepish on giving Belli that long term deal?  Teams are still unsure about who the real Belli is.  Here is Belli’s 2023 statcast.  Focus in on:

  • Average Exit Velocity
  • Barrel %
  • Hard Hit %

Cody Bellinger 2023 Statcast

 

Now look at who Cody Bellinger was in 2022.

Cody Bellinger 2022 Statcast

 

Teams are apparently concerned that with Bellinger’s poor output in the hard hit and barrel categories in 2023, whether he can sustain the progress he made last year or revert back to 2022.  They are paying him short term based on what he did last year, but neither the Cubs nor any other team were willing to commit to a $250MM deal over the long term.

Bellinger can opt out after both years.  Will he?  He does like playing in Chicago.  However, next year’s free agent class is not particularly good.

While Blake Snell is a 2-time CY winner, for his other years he did not get a vote.  While he had a wonderful year in 2023, he also led MLB in walks.  The Yankees made an offer of 6 years for $150MM, showing optimism that he might be able to pitch at the elite level over that span, but not enough to give him near what was believed to be Boras’ asking price.  – 9 years and $270MM.  Sure, that is asking, but teams looking to sign Boras clients are very few to begin with, and with LAD and ATL not looking to sign Boras clients on long term deals, that really limits the number of teams in on the bidding.  And this year, with the expected reduced local TV revenues, those teams might be willing to pay for Ohtani and Yamamoto, but not 31 year old pitchers with limited control and two years of excellent pitching.

Jordan Montgomery was believed to want to return to Texas, but right now, that is not going to happen.  He is willing to go back to NYY but NYY was not as inviting.  St. Louis had already made their starting rotation additions.  Philadelphia resigned Aaron Nola, and has a very good rotation.  NYM is not willing to spend on a 31 year old pitcher for long term and Carlos Rodón $$$.  Montgomery’s wife is working her residency in a Boston hospital, and many thought that Boston was the logical landing spot.  Unfortunately, this is the year that Boston is trying to be “financially responsible and sustainable.”  Should he expect to get the same deal as Aaron Nola?  Same baseball age. Same overall career.  Both workhorses.  Except Nola is a strikeout pitcher and Montgomery is a control soft contact pitcher.  To offset that, Monty is left handed which is a premium teams are willing to pay for.

Boston would like to sign Monty, but not until his price comes down significantly.  Could Boras been able to get Monty signed early?  Would St. Louis have been willing to pay a premium for Montgomery before they signed Gray, Gibson, and Lynn?  Could he have made a deal with Texas taking into consideration the short term cash flow concerns because of the local TV revenues?  Texas is very concerned about their short term csh flow because they are not going to get their revenue from a bankrupt Diamond Sports Group.  The Rangers will be working on a new TV deal, and with a WS Championship, that could have been a significant consideration.  But it is not done, and the owners are trying to be financially responsible, with a payroll already over the CBT tier 1.

. Matt Chapman?  I do believe he has been hampered by the Qualifying Offer more than any of the other free agents.  Chapman is a game changer with the glove, but not necessarily with the bat.  Teams are not willing to overpay for the glove AND lose a draft pick (or two).  San Francisco, Chicago Cubs, Seattle, Arizona, and Toronto were the most likely pursuers for Chapman.  San Francisco values defense, and Manager Bob Melvin was Chapman’s manager in Oakland.  Arizona already addressed 3B with their trade for Eugenio Suarez.  Seattle said they are out of the Chapman negotiations unless the price really drops.  Chicago just signed Bellinger.  For whatever reason, Toronto is not overwhelmed with the idea of Chapman returning to them.  They thought that Chapman could be the missing piece on a championship team, but he was not.  It was not Chapman’s fault of course, but he did not help either.

I still think that Chapman will sign with SF, but nowhere near where Boras believed he should be.  You might also wonder after JDM saying he did not want to play in SF, how would that impact Chapman.  I take that not because of the City, but Oracle Park being a terrible hitting stadium.  It just sucks the power out of players.  Barry Bonds does not count.  He could hit them out of the Grand Canyon.

JDM – How many teams want a fulltime DH?  Arizona went out of their way letting everyone know they wanted to sign a fulltime DH.  Most figured it would be JDM because of how he hit there in 2017.  Instead, Arizona went with Joc Pederson for a one-year, $12.5MM guarantee. Joc will receive a $9.5MM salary next season and is due a $3MM buyout on a 2025 mutual option valued at $14MM.  Would JDM have accepted that?  Would Arizona been willing to offer it?  Perhaps, Boras has waited too long to get JDM signed.  Toronto sign Justin Turner to be their primary DH.  SF signed Jorge Soler to be their primary DH.  Dodgers?  They have a DH in the name of Shohei Ohtani.  His options are…LAA, NYM,???

Boras definitely missed the market for Belli, and probably has for Snell, Montgomery, and JDM.  But Boras has been used to pulling off the impossible in the past, so with Boras, never say never.

Cue the collusion charges by Boras after the free agents are signed.

 

 

 

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Fred Vogel

What is the difference between barrel and sweet spot?

Duke Not Snider

The sweetest spot of the barrel?
Don’t mean to be glib, but I think it’s as simple as that. It’s the point of the barrel that factors into F=MA…That is, Force equals Mass X Acceleration… And the sweet spot provides optimum mass. Same rule applies on a golf swing.

Nice piece, Jeff.
I do think the Ohtani and Yamamoto deals warped expectations to some degree, but I also think Boras shouldn’t have read too much into that. Looking back, it’s easy to think of Ohtani and Yamamoto riding the biggest wave in a set that had included several mega-contracts for several players.
Ohtani and Yamamoto were far and away the most coveted players on the market. And it should have been also clear that the Dodgers have decided to compete in a global market, not a regional one like most teams.
Many people said, “Oh, Belli’s the best hitter after Ohtani,” but as you point out the internal numbers suggested he was a bit lucky. The drop from Ohtani’s bat to Belli’s is long and steep. Belli is back to being a good player, but not a great player. I think front-loading this contract was smart, because he may not be as lucky this season.
Belli, Snell, Montgomery, Chapman–there were questions about all of them that would reduce demand. Add to that the Bally bankruptcy mess and teams uncertain about their revenues. It’s really strange that the Rangers can’t bring back their postseason hero.
JD Martinez had a really good ’23. I think Justin Turner and Joc were smart to sign contracts a bit early knowing that the DH competition included JDM.
It’s been reported JD turned down an offer from the Giants. Will the next offer be as large?
A buddy of mine took a buyout from one employer–he was making about $9,000 per year– and then got offered a job at a startup with a salary of $70,000. We happened to be at Angels game when he got the call. I thought he should jump at because (a) it was a pretty cool gig and (b) he was unemployed, making $0 in income. But my friend was proud, and thought he could do better despite a shrinking job market.
Within a few weeks he regretted his decision. He bounced back and after a few years of struggle landed a job with the biggest salary of his life–but it’s not a job he loves, it’s a job he tolerates. He hopes to retire ASAP.
I’m hoping that the Angels might catch a break in the falling talent market.

Badger

“To be Barreled, a batted ball requires an exit velocity of at least 98 mph”

“Colloquially, a player who hits the ball solidly is said to have gotten the “sweet spot” of the bat on the ball. The sweet spot classification quantifies that as a batted-ball event with a launch angle ranging from 8 to 32 degrees”

I’m interested to hear what others have to say on this. It’s a good question.

Times article today going off on how exceptional Ohtani is at what he does. Could be a 40/40 man this year.

As for Bora$, he does have a reputation. I recall seeing a picture of him a while back with devil horns on his head. His yet to sign players will all do just fine. I think it’s possible what the Dodgers did skewed the entire structure. I’m sure it will eventually even out.

Can’t say I’m disappointed SF is striking out. SD should be better and either they or Arizona will get a Wild Card spot. Both would no doubt be jacked to meet the Dodgers in a short series.

Duke Not Snider

I think 40-40 underestimates Ohtani’s ability
He could be 50-50, but he won’t be because the Dodgers shouldn’t run that much.
Shohei was on a 50+ HR pace last season before he strained his lat.
It will be interesting to see how well he performs at DH with so much talent in the lineup and without having to prepare to pitch.

Duke Not Snider

I’ve got a problem with a definition that requires technology to assess an exit velocity of 98.
Fine for big leaguers. But I doubt anybody on my son’s U14 team can get generate a 98 mph exit velocity.
But they certainly barrel the ball, and sometimes find the sweet spot.

Bumsrap

I’m surprised a barrel doesn’t include hard hit ground balls. A 100 mph one hopper that gets through the infield and rolls to the wall is still 100 mph loud hit.

Duke Not Snider

I need to get my 14-year-old to do more tee work.
The “sweet spot,” as I understand it, reflects both the best spot on the barrel and the optimal moment of acceleration on the swing.
If you have a poor swing, the sweet spot is sour.

Fred Vogel

Thank you for the video.

Keith

I’m usually all for players getting their money, but I have no problem seeing Boras screw this up royally. I don’t believe a single one of these guys is going to get close to the contract they were looking for.

I’ve always felt Boras and the Dodgers don’t have that great of a relationship, he uses the Dodgers to drive up prices, then signs his clients with another team. I wasn’t
too impressed with his comments last season, about the Dodgers not handling Bellinger right. Everyone in baseball knows the Dodgers have a top notch medical, and training staff. To top it off, I’ve always thought he had Beltre sign with Seattle so he could get one of his other clients to fill our void, I can’t quite remember who it was, but I remember he was adequate at best, help me out here bear I’m sure you remember who we signed, after Beltre left.

although the Dodgers did get a heck of a deal on JD Martinez last season, but that doesn’t change my opinion of Boras much.

Oldbear48

They did not sign a third base replacement. Mike Edwards played the majority of the games at third in 2005 backed up by Willy Aybar. Who they did sign was JD Drew. If I remember correctly, Drew signed a five-year deal with an opt out after two. I think he was a Boras client. His first year, he was injured and played in only 72 games. He hit 15 homers but drove in only 36 runs. The second he hit 20 and drove in 100. He hit .283 that year. Then he left as a free agent and signed a five-year deal with the Red Sox. They used multiple 3rd basemen in 05 and 06. The primary 3rd baseman in 07 was Garciaparra. He shared time with Betamit, LaRoche, and Shea Hillenbrand. Guys like Blake DeWitt, Casey Blake, and Juan Uribe manned the position until 2015 when JT took over as the regular 3rd baseman.

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Duke Not Snider

JD Martinez took a below-market offer from the Dodgers for both personal and professional reasons. Van Scoyoc revived his career and became a close friend. He and Mookie had a good relationship too. And he wanted to be with a team that had a shot at the championship.
He had a really good season, but it hasn’t elevated his market much. It’s reported he turned down $14m for one year from the Giants–and then Giants signed Soler to a 3-year deal.
He’d be a great fit for a few teams, I think. But I’m glad the Diamondbacks didn’t sign him,

Oldbear48

I think Boras really doesn’t care. He will get his money even though his clients might not get what they want. I am not surprised JD did not want to play in SF full time. His career average at AT&T is .205 with 3 homers and 13 driven in. By contrast, he has hit .315 in Anaheim. If you were going simply by BA, he should sign with Colorado. He has hit .421 at Coors with 7 homers and 22 driven in in 17 games.

Duke Not Snider

Just noticed I wrote my friend was earning about $9,000 per year… Typos happen.. He was earning about $90,000

Dionysus

Boras is bad for baseball and I’m tired of people defending him.

Cassidy

He hasn’t been bad for baseball players

Badger

Baseball can afford him.

Bluto

Why?

Bluto

Why should fans of small market teams be upset with a millionaire agent and not “their” team’s billionaire owner?

Bluto

Ah. I blame that on owners.

Bluto

Maybe not all of those specific cities, as I’m not sure they are all owned by billionaires, which was my contention.

Definitely one of them.

Oakland’s owner is worth 4.3 billion dollars. Of course he could pay for a 500 million dollar contract.

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dodgerpatch

Huh!?

Yeah, I suppose he could – if he wanted to liquidate a significant portion of hard assets so he could make a big pile of money to set it on fire.

I don’t consider him a bad person for not wanting to do that. That would be irrational and stupid.

Keith

Very good point Bluto, fans rarely blame ownership for their teams woes.

porpoiseboy

Unless you’re an Angel fan.

Phil Jones

Sort of a forgettable Spring Game yesterday vs the A’s. Nice win and saw some good things.
Nice to see Outman have a day. His bomb off a LHP was nice to see. He made a nice catch, got another knock, stole a base and took 3rd on the same pitch that was wild. Nice hustle. I like the kid.
Phillips looked like always, great, as did Brasier who stuck out the side. Vesia was effective but not crisp. He’s always a slow starter. Our pitching depth is pretty amazing giving up 5 hits all day.
Freddie showed a little limp after his fly out to left. He was immediately replaced defensively. I hope it was just my imagination. I think he’s schedule to play today so we’ll see.
Muncy had a typical day. Took a called strike 3 with 2 on and followed that up the next AB with a 2 run homer (off a LHP). Max being Max.
Vargas looked terrible at the plate. He looks like he’s swing under water. Long swing sort of feeling for the ball. He has some work to do to shorten that stroke with some bat speed.
No Show-hei again but I hear he will DH tomorrow, which is fine with me as I have tickets. Me nice to see his first appearance
I swear 2 out of every 3 jerseys and Dodger tops worn at Camelback are Ohtani. They are everywhere. Name paying off already.

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Phil Jones

You’re welcome Jeff and I’m happy to hear you welcome my in-person analysis. I too think it may have just been one of those days for Vargas. Hoping to see a shorter, quicker bat to ball today.
Agree on your good analysis of Outman’s swing. No need to muscle up and get big. Using the entire park will be nice to see and not get pull happy which Max does too much. James’ swing looks even shorter as he keeps both hands on the bat with no Walt Hriniak finish.

Anthony H

Phil,
Walt Hriniak there is a name I haven’t heard in a while. Coached/Taught his philosophy to several Red Sox back in the day. If I remember correctly Wade Boggs swore by him. Charley Lau was his mentor and as a White Sox coach, he worked with Michael Jordan. Frank Thomas I believe praised Hriniak for his hitting methods as well.
I’m curious to know if you ever crossed paths with Hriniak in your time in baseball.

Oldbear48

That began happening the day after they signed him and the first Ohtani jerseys went on sale. He broke records the first day and he passed guys like Messi and Reynaldo who have huge jersey sales. He also passed Harper, one of MLB’s best selling jerseys,

Oldbear48

Happy Birthday to Preacher Roe. Roe would be 108 today if he was alive. Born in 1916.

Duke Not Snider

One of the all-time great baseball names.

Duke Not Snider

Bear, how about the all-time baseball name team, to be managed by Cornelius Alexander MacGillicuddy?
From the Dodgers, I nominate Dazzy, Preacher, PeeWee and Mookie. They can play with Dizzy, Yogi and Chipper.
Our Mookie wasn’t the first, but he is the best.

Dionysus

I think Gavin Stone is ready.

RC Dodger

Interesting quote from Mark Prior about Walker Buehler. Not sure of the entire context but didn’t sound good. However, Walker was on Just Baseball podcast Sunday, and he seemed upbeat. He said he plans to face live batters on Tuesday. He still hopes to pitch in a Cactus League game, but admitted that is uncertain still. He seemed content with his progress so far. He said his velocity will pick up once he faces batters. He was happy for Bellinger getting a contract, and complimentary of his new teammates.
I was also able to see practice field action Monday. Miguel Rojas was taking extra batting practice, and Jason Heyward stayed late to work directly with him. Heyward seemed very helpful and looked like a great teammate. He seems like a great clubhouse presence.

Cassidy

Margot traded to Twins. Ok Vargas, this your chance

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Singing the Blue

Vargas, Pages or maybe Kike returns.

Bumsrap

A prescient nose.

Dionysus

*knows

Duke Not Snider

Eau de Kike.
For the discerning Dodger fan.

Zeke

The Dodgers have traded outfielder Manuel Margot to the Twins, reports Juan Toribio of MLB.com. Had a feeling he wasn’t going to last long with us. Wonder if this means they are still thinking about resigning Kike?

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Bluto

Return is Noah Miller. Miller is a 21 (yo) SS who was the 36th overall pick in the 2021 MLB Draft

Career .644 OPS in the minor leagues. #23 on MLB Pipeline and #18 Fangraphs

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Bluto

Heard Doncon going with Margot and $$

Dionysus

Doncon didn’t get much love in hard-core prospect circles. We got many more just as good in the pipeline.

Bluto

It all feels like one thing too much between the $$$ given up and the prospect.

If it was Margot and the $6mm or Margot and Doncon, I think I’d evaluate it as fair.

But I know nothing, especially how valuable 40 man spots are becoming for this team.

Duke Not Snider

Another SS from Wisconsin? So maybe Lux without the hype?
Smart moves, I think. Kike is so much more versatile than Margot. Manny, we hardly knew ye…
Dodgers really like Kike a lot. And vice-versa. I wonder if AF or Gomes were telling Kike to be patient and not sign with the Angels or Pads or Giants…Deal is reported at 1 year for $4 million. Seems fair.
The trade brought to mind a web gem Kike had late last season at 3B. It was impossible to imagine Max making that play. Some people say Taylor is a better infielder than Kike, but I’m not sure. Maybe Kike is better at 3B, and CT3 is better in the middle.
The move reinforces the infield without hurting the OF. Kike backs up Outman too.
I’m optimistic about Max improving against lefties, but it’s good that Kike or CT3 can give him the occasional day off. And Roberts will want to work Rojas into the lineup as well. Last season, Rojas was decent against lefties.

Dodgers over-loaded against a lefty:

Mookie 2B
Freddie 1B
Shohei DH
Will C
Teoscar RF
Taylor 3B/LF
Kike LF/3B
Outman CF
Rojas SS

Bench: Lux, Max, Heyward, Barnes

I don’t think there’s another headline move in the works, but I’d much rather see Devin Williams than Kenley…

Oldbear48

Kike totally failed at SS when Boston tried to plug him in there to replace Story when he was hurt. Was a -6 in defensive runs saved as a SS. Vargas has no chance to make the 26 man out of spring training. The Dodgers value defense, and he would be 6th on the depth chart as an outfielder. Heyward is a gold glove caliber defender.

Keith

Max is not going to sit against lefties too often, he hasn’t in the past so I see no reason why they would start this year.

Duke Not Snider

Depends on how he hits.
Last season, Max’s OPS against lefties was .641, with an OBP of only .263. Against righties, his OPS was .881 with a.363 OBP.
Against lefties, Taylor had a .795 OPS, with 10 HR in only 138 ABs.
Also, here’s a breakdown of Kike’s starts with the Dodgers:
“… Hernández started 11 games at third base, eight games each in center field and shortstop, seven games in left field, five games at second base, twice in right field, and even started the one game at first base that Freddie Freeman didn’t start, the day after the Dodgers clinched the National League West.”
I was surprised that Kike started 11 games at 3rd after his midseason acquisition.
A lot will depend how well Max is playing. I don’t expect a straight platoon, but Roberts wants to keep bench players active. When lefties are pitching, Roberts will sometimes move Max to the bench in favor of Kike or Taylor. Nice bat to come off the bench.

Oldbear48

According to Jeff Passan, Kike is nearing a one year deal with the Dodgers.

Watford Dodger

Good to see Kike back.

Ryan Yarbrough is very underrated. He will be a
very valuable player this season and it was folly to leave him off NL Div Roster when we were so short of pitching.

Austin Barnes should not be our back up Catcher and has no place hitting Clean Up in this stacked Dodgers lineup.
He cannot hit and he can’t throw anyone out. Ever.
The guff about him being Kershaw’s preferred receiver no longer has any relevance either.
Fedducia is a total unknown and no one else is ready.
Better hope for no Concussions or other mishaps to Will.
Gonna drive me nuts watching Barnes every 5 days or Getaway days.

Bobby

Agree about the backup catcher; hopefully Hunter shows something, or Barnes rediscovers something.

Wat, not sure if you heard, but Arsenal/Man U set at Sofi Stadium July 27!

Oldbear48

Barnes still can’t hit for jack.

Oldbear48

And neither can Vargas. He looked overmatched today. Welcome back Kike, and bye bye Margot.

Bluto

Who was Vargas facing?

Rooney’s box score is my kinda box score.

Bluto

THanks!

That’s not a good way to make the opening day roster.

Duke Not Snider

He now has even less of a chance of making the opening roster with Kike aboard.

Oldbear48

No one on the Rockies 26 man. He was facing minor leaguers. Struck out 2 of his three at bats. 0-3 with two K’s.

Bumsrap

Hoese got a couple of hits though.

Bumsrap

Because the Dodgers don’t have anyone named Jack on their roster?

Oldbear48

He couldn’t hit Jack in the Box.

Bumsrap

He has cranked up more than a popup so maybe he just needs f few gears adjusted.

Singing the Blue

As I recall, Cooper’s splits are pretty one-sided, as are Busch’s in the opposite direction. Maybe they’ll make a very effective platoon.

Dionysus

We lost all the trades.

Bluto

😄

Scott Andes

Is there anyone more despicable than Scott Boras and his monopoly on free agency?

Bluto

Oakland A’s owner? Frank McCourt? Reds owner Castellinni?

OhioDodger

Ryan Braun. Barry Bonds. Roger Clemens.

Bobby

Altuve. Correa. Bregman

OhioDodger

Yes, indeed. And Rob Manfred.

OhioDodger

I guess Manfred is more inept than despicable.

OhioDodger

Don’t forget Josh Reddick.

Scott Andes

Ha ha you got me there.

porpoiseboy

Artie Moreno

Singing the Blue

Boras only has that monopoly because players want to sign with him.
That’s their choice. They aren’t being forced to do it.

Nothing more despicable than all those players who chose to sign with Boras and give him a monopoly on free agency.

dodgerpatch

Should the players not sign with him? If you’re an MLB player, do you not want to maximize the return for your skills?

I suppose there are some players who take a more dispassionate, mercenary style of approach to signing contracts and don’t really have loyalty to teams and the cities in which they play, but some people are going to be like that. I don’t know that they are despicable for it. They don’t exist to make your or I happy. They operate on self-interest.

I think, ultimately, the players such as Freeman or Kershaw who do form bonds with their communities and sign more accommodating contracts to stay in one place are generally happier. They are getting a non-monetary reward through community.

I can’t in good faith hate on Seager for taking the money, but I hate him a little for taking the money.

Scott Andes

He does have like 80% of the players in MLB I think. I could be wrong on that though, but he’s got the majority, which is like a monopoly.

But he does have a ton of influence. Some would think too much.

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Bumsrap

If you want to keep looking at this maybe you could look at the combined salaries of agents clients.

I think there have been a few Boras clients that have told him the team and the sign by date they wanted and he obliged.

Duke Not Snider

Millions of people, I’m sure.
One in particular comes to mind… but I guess we should avoid politics here.

Oldbear48

Good choice, but one should realize most of those guys lie on cue.

dodgerpatch

LOL! The level to which a single human being with an orange complexion and goofy hair can engender such levels of monomaniacal obsession never ceases to amaze. TDS really should be part of the next revision of the DSM-V.

Rent free.

Bluto

How do you know he didn’t mean Schumer, AOC, Gaetz or that ninny Cori Bush?

So many possible targets of that post.

Make mine Blue

Yeah leave FJB out of it, he’s got enough rot in da brain to sink a whole nation.

dodgerpatch

Boras is easy to hate. That’s because he does his job well. For those who hate Boras, are you against free agency? Do you think MLB should go back to the days before Curt Flood?

The whole notion of free agency is predicated on there being a fundamental adversarial relationship between labor and ownership and a state of relative power equilibrium between the two negotiating parties. Free markets and corporate structuring are based in large measure on adversarial relationships … checks and balances and all that. (The alleged lack of an adversarial relationship is at the root of the Delaware judgement against Elon Musk’s compensation package vis a vis the Tesla board. I say “alleged” b/c politics is a part of it, too).

Boras is there to use leverage to negotiate the best contract for his clients. He’s hard. He’s shrewd. He’s smart. He’s effective. I don’t like him because I’d like the Dodgers to have stars like Seager on team friendly deals, and a part of me thinks that Seager would’ve been happier in LA at a slightly cheaper contract – and that Boras is more focused on his bottom line rather than what’s ultimately best for the player – but I can’t argue that he’s one of the best negotiators for his clients.

He does not have a monopoly on clients, as Jeff thoroughly explained. Monopolies are bad … checks and balances and all that. Collective ownership having a non-negotiable ownership over a player’s services is a kind of monopoly.

At the same time, I read someone comment here that there will be accusations of collusion over the less-than-huge contracts for a few high profile Boras clients. There shouldn’t be, IMO. If Boras is so good at using leverage to sign players to contracts that hurt teams, then teams should be able to say no. If he can game the system, then ownership pushback is one mechanism to elicit a correction.

BTW, Mark apparently got in another row with someone here and re-started his blog. Did I miss something?

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Oldbear48

Boras is who he is. You can’t blame the guy for playing by the rules. That being said, you cannot blame GM’s and execs who refuse to bargain with him. He has used the Dodgers in the past to drive up his clients’ prices. He obviously did it with Zack Greinke. He does not have the most clients, but he does have some of the more expensive. I wonder with Bellinger if Cody did not push that deal. You look at the remaining A-list free agents and you have to know, none of them are going to get what Boras was originally asking.

Cassidy

How did Lux look at SS yesterday?

Oldbear48

I do not remember a single ball being hit to him. Might be wrong, but I did not see any hit his way. Cubs have not made Bellinger’s signing official yet, working on a trade to make roster space. Kike is officially on the roster and assigned # 8 like he had last year.

Last edited 4 months ago by Oldbear48
Make mine Blue

Good question, how did Lux look? His delayed debut at SS, day after day, has to be disconcerting to the team. He had such a big injury, those things can take more than a year to actually rehab. It’s the strength factor of that joint that takes so long to return. I hope he is good, but we may be seeing another Rojas year at SS (I have no problem with that, we certainly don’t need to rely on Rojas’ bat to be a winning team). Just don’t put Rojas at SS on the days that “Couldn’t Hit the Side of a” Barnes in the lineup. You can’t convince me that there isn’t any catcher available that wouldn’t be an upgrade from Barnes.

Last edited 4 months ago by Make mine Blue
OhioDodger

Barnes is only tolerable if he plays once a week. Only 25-30 games a year. It is hard to believe the Dodgers can’t find or don’t want to pursue an upgrade.

Badger

He has his moments. And we only see him a few innings a year. What he brings to the clubhouse and to that staff may overshadow his stats. I’ve heard he’s the baddest dude on that team so he may be an out of the spotlight leader.

Bumsrap

I fully agree with all of that.

Duke Not Snider

When Barnes first joined the Dodgers as Grandal’s backup, he had some great days with the bat. His offense has really withered over the years. I was fine with Grandal leaving because Barnes seemed so good.
Dodgers really did well drafting Will Smith. I’ve mentioned this before, but if you look at his draft class, he has outperformed every other first-rounder chosen ahead of him, a group that includes Lux. (The Dodgers 2016 Dodgers draft vintage was excellent, also bringing in Dustin May, Gonsolin, Mitch White, Luke Raley and other future major leaguers, down to Zach McKinstry in the 33rd round.)
Barnes should be OK this season, though I still hope a minor injury gives Feduccia a shot. Sure would be nice if Cartaya bounces back to star-catcher-of-the-future status.

Bobby

Ohtani will be batting 2nd this year.

Duke Not Snider

Yeah…
I hope Roberts offers a full explanation for the decision. There is no wrong answer, but Mookie-Freddie has been a great one-two punch, so I was hoping they’d just make it Mookie-Freddie-Shohei.
This arrangement does provide Shohei with a bit more protection and could spike his production a bit. Shawn Green’s team HR record is in jeopardy.

Bluto

Just watching the game through Twitter/X lists, Grove didn’t seem to get into a groove.
Ohtani did.
👀 Blake Treinen’s first time on the Major League mound since 2022 starts with a pitch clock violation

Last edited 4 months ago by Bluto
Bluto

From what I’ve read the ONLY 40 man players, aside from Yamamoto and Kike, who are yet to appear in a game are:

Paxton
Sheehan (soreness)
Graterol (soreness)
Kelly
Feyereisen 
Cartaya

Singing the Blue

You can assume Kelly is suffering from some kind of soreness…………………because he always is.

Bluto

I think I read it’s all about backfield work on Cartaya’s swing.

Singing the Blue

I suppose they think that before they expose him to major league pitchers he needs to hit minor league pitching better.

Badger

A lot of games left. Maybe one of the group gets moved before too long.

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