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History of AF Drafts With LAD

I did not do a final analysis of the 3rd day of the draft.  It is the most speculative in terms of talent and signability.  There are a couple with MLB bloodlines:

  • Kyle Nevin – Baylor OF (11) – Son of LAA Manager and former MLB player Phil Nevin.
  • Jared Karros – UCLA RHP (16) – Son of former LAD/MLB 1B Eric Karros.  Karros has not pitched since 2021 due to a back injury.

There is a 5th year senior All American:

  • Chris Alleyne – Maryland CF (19)

There is a former HS top 100 prospect who never did play at his expected level.  He was at one time expected to be a top 3 round pick.

  • Chris Newell – Virginia CF (13)

A potential steal of the 3rd day.

  • Jacob Meador – Dallas Baptist RHP (12)

3 HS Shortstops and 1 HS Pitcher

  • Nicolas Perez (15) – SS
  • Payton Martin (17) – RHP
  • Cameron Decker (18) – SS
  • Carter McCulley (20) – SS

1 Junior College SS, who originally attended the University of Miami:

  • Jose Izarra – (14) – SS

Most of the “experts” have labeled the Dodgers draft in the “losers” column.  It is hard to be elite when you get 1 pick in the top 100 and that pick is 40.  It is also difficult to sign top HS prospects with a bonus budget so low as the Dodgers was.  Ahhhh.  Trevor Bauer, the gift that just keeps giving.  What a colossal mistake by AF by signing Bauer.

 

 

Back to the draft.  The draft is a crapshoot.  AF has been at the helm of 8 LAD drafts after this past week.  There have been solid drafts that have produced multiple MLB players, players who have been traded to acquire MLB talent, players used as organizational depth, and some who just did not provide results and were released (vast majority).  AF’s first LAD draft pick was huge and was the first Andrew Friedman All Star draftee; Walker Buehler.

2016 was a historically special draft.  Others not so much.  I know that many publications consider the LAD farm system elite, but during the AF era, only 2 draft picks have gone on to become All Stars…Walker Buehler and Tony Gonsolin.  Two others that will probably get there at some point…Will Smith and Gavin Lux.  Why are they elite?  Because they do generate multiple MLB roster players, even if not stars.

Let’s revisit the prior AF drafts.

I have been reading on the MLB draft for a long time.  Having been disappointed in 1993 and 1996 when our son was not drafted when a number of teams said they were very interested.  In 1997, Andy was selected in the 26th round by Philadelphia.  The disappointment did not diminish my love of the draft.

Every year I do a thorough research on the players I think may be available when the Dodgers pick.  Every year (except for 2015) I was wrong.  I did think Walker Buehler could/would drop into the LAD lap and he did.

I did not like the Kyle Funkhouser pick because he was a Scott Boras client. Funkhouser did not sign.  But I was very happy with the Mitchell Hansen pick (2nd round), and he turned out to be a bust.  Josh Sborz (competitive balance round B), Edwin Rios (6th round), and Matt Beaty (12th round) and Kyle Garlick

(28th round) found their way to the Dodgers.  Willie Calhoun (4th round) and Brendon Davis (5th round) were included in the Yu Darvish trade.  Outside of Buehler and maybe Rios, the 2015 draft did not produce many significant MLB players.  Beaty produced some memorable clutch moments for the Dodgers in 2019.  And who knows, Josh Sborz could find himself back with the Dodgers.

In 2016, I advocated for Bo Bichette for the LAD 1st round pick.  The Dodgers selected Gavin Lux, while Bichette who was selected in the 2nd round (right after the Dodgers selected Mitch White), was selected an All Star in 2021.  But the 2016 draft for the Dodgers was gold, one of the very best drafts of all time.  Thirteen draftees who signed with LAD have made it to MLB.

  • Gavin Lux (1)
  • Will Smith (1A)
  • Jordan Sheffield (1B) – With Colorado
  • Mitch White (2)
  • Dustin May (3)
  • Tony Gonsolin (9)
  • Zach McKinstry (33)

Others of Note:

  • DJ Peters – OF (4) – Not currently affiliated
  • Devin Smelzer – LHSP (5) (Brian Dozier Trade) – With Minnesota
  • Luke Raley – OF (7) (Brian Dozier Trade) – Now with Tampa Bay
  • Andre Scrubb – RHRP (8) (with Houston)
  • AJ Alexy – RHP (11) (Yu Darvish Trade)
  • Dean Kremer – RHSP (14) (Manny Machado Trade)

Others still working their way to MLB

  • Cody Thomas – OF (13) (Sheldon Neuse and Gus Varland Trade) – Oakland AAA
  • Kevin Malisheski – RHRP (38) – LAD AA

Cannot fault any selection of the draft.  Historically good draft.

Two others that did not sign with LAD were re-drafted and have made their new MLB teams (Graham Ashcraft – Reds, Bailey Ober – Twins).

2017 is where I departed with LAD.  Jeren Kendall was not supposed to be around when the Dodgers selected, but he was, and the Dodgers did not do what all those teams before them did…pass on him.  Going into his junior season he was a potential 1/1 pick.  But his junior year did not go as planned.  His swing and miss increased because of his desire for power.  A CF with GG capabilities who could flat out fly, and he wants to be a power hitter?  I did not write about him, because I did not think he would be available.

I was an advocate for Jake Burger and Tanner Houck.  Burger was gone by the time the LAD selected, but not Tanner Houck.  Big mistake by the Dodgers in not taking Houck, who was mocked drafted by multiple sources. He was selected exactly one pick after the Dodgers selected Kendall.

Others of Note:

  • Morgan Cooper – RHP (2) – Has never pitched at the professional level
  • Connor Wong – C (3) – Mookie Betts Trade
  • James Marinan – RHP (4) – Dylan Floro Trade – Still struggling in High A for Cincinnati
  • Zach Pop – RHRP (7) – Manny Machado Trade – Now with Miami
  • Rylan Bannon – 3B (8) – Manny Machado Trade (Baltimore 40 man)
  • Zach Reks – OF (10) – Signed for $1,500 – DFA by Texas, signed w/ KBO Lotte Giants
  • Jacob Amaya – SS (11) – AAA with LAD (on 40 man)
  • Andre Jackson – RHP (12) – AAA with LAD (on 40 man)
  • Marshall Kasowski – RHRP (13) – AAA with LAD
  • Mark Washington – RHRP (25) – AAA with LAD
  • Brett de Geus – RHRP (33) – Released by LAD and released by Arizona – Now in Independent

As an aside, I was routinely writing that I thought the best thing the Dodgers could do for Kendall would be to hire Brett Butler as his personal hitting coach.  But then again slap hitters are not what MLB players want to be, or what MLB executives want their players to do.

2018, the Dodgers selected Mississippi HS RHP JT Ginn.  I was a huge advocate for LHP Shane McClanahan out of South Florida.  Although I truly did not think he would be there when the Dodgers drafted.  However, he was selected by Tampa Bay one pick later.  He signed for what the Dodgers offered Ginn.  There were those who believed the Dodgers did not want to sign a 1st round pick for financial reasons, and get the supplemental pick the following year.  I remember writing about this mistake for days/months/years after the pick.

Ginn would later have TJ surgery and was selected in the 2nd round of the 2020 draft by NYM.  He was later traded to Oakland with Adam Oller in the Chris Bassitt trade.

Others of Note:

  • Michael Grove – RHP (2) – AAA with LAD (on 40 man)
  • John Rooney – LHP (3) – AA with LAD
  • Braydon Fisher – RHP (4) – A+ with LAD
  • Devin Mann – 2B (5) – AA with LAD
  • James Outman – OF (7) – AAA with LAD (on 40 man)
  • Hunter Feduccia – C (12) – AAA with LAD
  • Julian Smith – LHRP (15) – A+ with LAD
  • Aldrich de Jongh – OF (17) – A+ with LAD
  • Justin Hagenman – RHRP (23) – AAA with LAD
  • Drew Avans – OF (33) – AAA with LAD
  • Austin Drury – LHRP (34) – AA with LAD

In 2019, many draft pundits mock drafted Gunnar Henderson (High School SS) for the Dodgers.  After all the reading, that is who I was pulling for.  Instead the Dodgers selected Kody Hoese which was a reach in almost everyone’s opinion.  I remember getting into some testy discussions with an individual on this pick.  I thought then and I still do believe that Gunnar Henderson should have been the Dodgers selection.  He is now a consensus top 10 prospect (#7 Baseball America and #5 MLB Pipeline). Kody Hoese?  He is #24 for the Dodgers and falling.  Right now his value is as a lottery pick in a trade.

Michael Busch was 1A, and was a solid pick for the Dodgers.  I also had discussions with that same individual who did not think Busch was nearly the prospect that Hoese was.  Busch was the perfect 1A pick.  Someone you hope to catch lightning in a bottle with in your second pick in the first round.  If the Dodgers had selected Henderson, Kody Hoese would have been a fine 1A selection.

The best pick for LAD should be their #3 selection of Ryan Pepiot.  He was the first 2019 draft pick for LAD to make it to MLB.  Michael Busch should be #2.

I was more than okay with the Dodgers 4th round pick, Brandon Lewis, who went to Alemany High School (where my 2 sons played), and Pierce College, where my son Kris played.  I did not understand the pick as Brandon was a 3B, the same position as is Hoese.  Did they really need two 3B in their first 4 picks?  Brandon has taken a step back with the step up to AA.  Hopefully he will return there in 2023 and thrive and become a prospect.  That is what I hope for.  Realistic???

Others of Note:

  • Aaron Ochsenbein – RHRP (6) – AAA with LAD
  • Nick Robertson – RHRP (7) – AA with LAD
  • Ryan Ward – OF (8) – AA with LAD
  • Alec Gamboa – LHRP (9) – AA with LAD
  • Jacob Cantleberry – LHRP (13) – A+ with LAD
  • Jeff Belge – LHRP (18) – A+ with LAD
  • Jonny DeLuca – OF (25) – AA with LAD
  • Julio Carrion – Utility (33) – A with LAD

2020, the pandemic hit, and the guessing was all over the course.  Everyone finally agreed on an abbreviated draft (5 rounds), but who the Dodgers would tab was anyone’s guess.

The popular picks for the Dodgers were HS SS Ed Howard (signed by Cubs 16th overall) and Mississippi State 2B, Justin Foscue, who was signed by Texas 14th overall).

Another popular choice was RHB from Miami, Slade Cecconi who was still available, and selected by Arizona with 33rd overall pick.

  • Tanner Burns – Auburn RHP, was selected 36th overall (Cleveland).
  • Nick Loftin – Baylor SS, was selected 32 overall (KC).
  • Dillon Dingler – Ohio State C, selected 38th overall (Detroit)
  • CJ Van Eyk – Florida State RHP, selected 42nd overall (Toronto)
  • Dax Fulton – HS LHP, was selected 40th overall (Miami)
  • Jared Jones – HS RHP, was selected 44th overall (Pittsburgh)

Tanner Witt HS pitcher did not sign with anyone.  Is at University of Texas and had TJ surgery this past spring.

ESPN had Carson Tucker going to LAD, but he was gone when LAD picked.

In other words, nobody had a clue.  Except Jonathan Mayo (MLOB Pipeline) did say that the Dodgers could take Bobby Miller or Clayton Beeter with their first pick.  As it turns out, Mayo was right, and the Dodgers got both.

2020 could be a special draft for the Dodgers…or not.  Their first pick, Bobby Miller just flashed brilliance at the Futures Game by striking out the side in the 1st.

  • Landon Knack – RHP – (2) – AA with LAD
  • Clayton Beeter – RHP – (2 CB-B) – AA with LAD
  • Jake Vogel – OF (3) – A with LAD
  • Carson Taylor – C (4) – AA with LAD
  • Gavin Stone – RHP (5) – AA with LAD

Other than Jake Vogel, all are progressing nicely, and Vogel is showing signs of improvement at Rancho.

In 2021, the Dodgers selected Maddux Bruns.  Again the mock drafts were all over the board, but I was a strong advocate for Texas RHP Ty Madden.  Madden was selected by Detroit 3 picks after LAD selected Bruns. Time will tell whether Bruns is a legit MLB pitcher.  While I am not convinced that there is a starter in the draft, there are a number of intriguing arms that we will need much more time to determine if they are potential MLB caliber pitchers.

  • Peter Heubeck
  • Nick Nastrini
  • Ronan Kopp
  • Emmet Sheehan
  • Lael Lockhart

We will see who makes the cut next year.  LAD pitchers are indeed desired by other teams, so there at least multiple lottery tickets in this group.

I know there are those who do not believe that the Dodgers should trade any prospects for proven talent.  Other than Yordan Alvarez, what prospects have turned into elite MLB players.  Then there are those who believe that prospects are suspects and if they are not ready to promote, should be used as capital for trades.

Where does everyone fall in this dilemma?

 

 

 

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Singing the Blue

Very thought provoking Jeff.
Imagine having McClanahan as part of our staff today.
Imagine having a DP combo of Lux and Bichette.
It would sure be nice to have Henderson on our prospect list instead of Hoese.

I have high hopes that at least one of Sheehan, Nastrini, Heubeck and Kopp will turn into something special.

Big fan of Jacob Meador from the video I saw. Hope they can work on his command.

Bluto

We couldn’t have a DP combo of Lux and Bichette.

Hindsight, they say, is always 20:20.

Singing the Blue

Why couldn’t we have had the Lux/Bichette combo?
We took Lux in the first round and Bichette was available when we took White in the second.
Am I missing something (not unusual for me)?

Jeff Dominique

You are correct.

Bluto

See how little I know?

Fred Vogel

Your extensive knowledge of non-MLB players amazes me. I admit to only following those players who put on an L.A Dodger uniform so I guess you could say I look at MiLB players as valuable capital. Maybe it’s my age (71) that doesn’t get me too exited about a prospect who may be 3-5 years from The Show. Maybe it’s my impatience. My wine collection (+500 bottles) has very few older vintages as I prefer to drink them up while I am still capable and not wait 10-15 more years before they reach their ‘optimal’ drinking window.

Bluto

A man after my heart!

what vineyards do you subscribe to?

im paring down to Alban and Cayuse

Fred Vogel

Where to begin…Aubert, Keplinger, Betz, Force Majeure, Turley, among way too many others. Main stash is from Washington, Napa/Sonoma, and Paso Robles. I live next to the Willamette Valley but don’t drink much pinot. Go figure.

Bluto

Love Turley.

I used to do Rivers-Marie, Cliff Lede, Hourglass.

But then my kids grew and I needed to start saving for their colleges and private schools.

Sigh.

Badger

I align with Fred on this. Decades of drafts, hundreds of prospects hoping for the next Piazza but no longer surprised by the many Kendall’s.

I appreciate all the work you put in these reports. Wish I could add something of value. I cannot. I see nobody in this draft that is going to help win championships in the next 5 years. In my 8th decade of being a fan my vision is not what it usta was.

Badger

I see Miller as another, maybe better, Gonsolin. His stuff breaks about as much but his heater is hotter. When Miller gets command, and he will get it dammit, he’ll blow them away the first time through the lineup, then cruise comfortably through 5 innings. He might be able to get close to that when he’s brought up later this year.

It would appear that true aces are hard to come by these days. 5 #3’s on a slugging team like the Dodgers might actually work if all of them can go 6 at 3.5 ERA. It seems to me that a lot of starting pitchers now are more like the long relievers of yesteryear.

Singing the Blue

I appreciate the short term thinking which Fred V. and Badger are laying claim to. When you hit 70, it’s harder to think years down the road.

On the other hand, I’m older than both of you, but knowing I’ll live to 110, I’m always excited by new prospect lists. I’m looking forward to seeing both Charlie Kershaw and Charlie Freeman in Dodger uniforms.

Fred Vogel

I like your attitude.

Badger

He’s dreaming Fred. Jefe lives up in the Santa Clarita area and that place and Jefe’s brain cells are going to melt before he’s 90. It’s near 100 up there today and is going to stay near 100 until Fall.

Singing the Blue

Get your facts straight, man! I live on the other side of the hill from Santa Clarita, in the San Fernando Valley.

Of course that means all your snide comments about my brain cells melting apply even more so.

Badger

My mistake. Granada Hills used to be nice. Not sure anymore. The pictures of Porter Ranch look nice. Bet it’s pretty dry up there.

San Fernando Valley huh? You won’t make 110 living there. But you don’t need to live that long to see the Charlie’s play. They’ll be drafted in 15 years or less. You won’t even be 100.

Jeff Dominique

Lived in Granada Hills close to 30 years. Still consider it my home.

Singing the Blue

Yeah, I’m in Porter Ranch (basically northwest Northridge). It’s nice enough here if you like living in the desert. I don’t, particularly, but we’ve been here for about 30 years so……….

Our younger daughter went to the same high school as Jeff’s son Andy, but she never played for the Red Sox.

Bluto

Your final question can’t be binary right? Good prospects are good to have because you can use them for cost-controlled roster spots OR trade capital. Both is an easier answer than A or B to me.

I just tend to think of prospects as assets to be developed. This is how I rationalize the Dodgers constantly picking or signing Catchers. Because they will always be a more valuable position than, say, 3B.

High-velocity/high-upside pitchers have greater potential as assets than maybe more “pitchability guys”

I really have no clue. I know nothing. I work in marketing.

Singing the Blue

Rob/Jeff – maybe you could do some research on a guy we signed as a non-drafted free agent yesterday.

Livan Reinoso – played for Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA school) and is also now playing for the famous Savannah Bananas. Hit over 30 homers this year and did a little pitching (16.2k/9) and hit 97 on the speed gun. Apparently he has quite a few nicknames with the Bananas, including the Duke of Dingers.

I realize that when you look at his stats, you need to consider the level of competition, but some famous MLB players attended NAIA schools, including Don Sutton, Joe Morgan and Harmon Killebrew.

Here’s the Duke of Dingers hitting a dinger.

Rob Schelling

STB – I didn’t have time to look up any additional information on him, but I did come across this about this past year at Tennessee Wesleyan University: “Livan Reinoso was named NAIA All-American First Team at third base. Reinoso had a superb season at the plate for the Bulldogs. In 64 games this season, the Hazelton, Pa., native led the team with 100 hits, 82 runs, 23 doubles, 32 home runs, 95 runs batted in (RBI), and 36 walks. The senior finished the season with a .417 batting average, a .495 on-base percentage, and a .921 slugging percentage. Reinoso led the NAIA in home runs and runs while finishing fourth in slugging percentage, tied for fourth in hits, and was fifth in runs. The Appalachian Athletic Conference (AAC) Player of the Year, Newcomer of the Year, and All-AAC First Team member led the AAC in home runs, RBIs, hits, and slugging percentage. Reinoso was named AAC Player of the Week four times this season. Reinoso also spent some time on the mound this season, making 14 appearances in relief. In 15 innings of work, Reinoso had 27 strikeouts.”

Prior to TWU, he played at Erskine College (D-II) and put up equally ridiculous numbers. I’ll see if I can find more later, work and wife permitting. 

Last edited 4 months ago by Rob Schelling
Singing the Blue

Thanks for the quick response, Rob.
I understand if your wife won’t let you spend any more time on this, but work? Never let work interfere with analysis of the Duke of Dingers.

Badger

I just read that too Rob.

Why wasn’t he drafted?

Singing the Blue

Because all 30 MLB teams felt there were 616 players that are better than he is.

If Jeren Kendall went in the first round and Reinoso couldn’t get himself drafted in the first 20 rounds, what does that say about his future, or………………. teams’ ability to judge talent. Time will give us our answer to that one, I guess.

Badger

There are a number of those 616 that wouldn’t have accomplished what he did in college. He hit .424 and OPS’d 1.372 in 491 at bats. I don’t care what level college he was at, those numbers are impressive.

Singing the Blue

Certainly worth whatever bonus they gave him to sign.
I’m not the expert you are, but to me, his swing looks very nice in the video I posted above.

Rob Schelling

Probably because he played at the NAIA level. There are some good players to be found at that level, but the teams don’t have the depth and pitching found in D-1. Mostly when NAIA players do get drafted (i.e. our 10th rounder Simon Reid), it’s because the excel in summer ball. The odds are stacked against this young man making it to the show. But you never know. Here’s hoping he can put up his video game numbers in professional baseball.

Bluto

Jeff, Longenhagen was on the Effectively Wild podcast (saw this on Twitter) about a new pitcher, Reynaldo Yean.

Supposedly scouts are gushing on him.

Do you know anything about?

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