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I thought that I would start a new post to comment on.  The previous post was up to 131 replies.  If you want to continue on the previous post, please do.  But if you have thoughts on the Winter Meetings and the Dodgers, you can start a new thread on this one.  I am working on new post but do not think it will be complete for awhile, and some fans like to have a less unwieldly number of replies to work through.

 

As tedraymond so succinctly reminds us…Carry On.

 

Jeff Dominique

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Bobby

Everyone thought once Soto signed, the flood gates would open.

So let’s get this week started!

I really hope we bring Teo back, and I REALLY hope we don’t lose Walker Buehler!

Bluto

Boras having quite the off-season.

The Yankees went from $47.5M x 15 years ($712.5M) to 16 years ($760M) after Boras asked for new offers early Sunday evening.

Then Juan Soto took the Mets’ deal.

The in-depth story of how Soto’s sweepstakes happened, by Rosenthal, Mooney and Will Sammon: ($$$$)

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5932790/2024/12/08/juan-soto-mets-free-agent-deal/

NOT much, if anything, on how involved (or not involved) the Dodgers and Red Sox were.

Rosenthal on his podcast expects a 3 year deal for Teoscar to actually happen:

Also says (!!!!) Dodgers ARE in fact looking at high end relievers.

Last edited 5 months ago by Bluto
OhioDodger

With the signings of Conforto and Treinen the Dodgers now need to turn their attention to resigning Teo. The price probably just went way up with the Soto contract. I don’t think the money is the big issue with resigning him. I think it is more the length of the deal. Dodgers don’t want to go over 2 or 3 years and I believe he and his agent are seeking 3 to 5 years.

What are the alternatives if we whiff on Teo????

Free Agents:
Santander
Bader
Grichuk
Profar
Verdugo

Possible Trades:
Bellinger
Suzuki
Roberts Jr.

Bklyn2LA57

I find it hard to believe AF will be satisfied with just adding Conforto to the outfield. I would hope that if he has to he will increase the years of the contract offer to Teo to 4 years. I can’t envision anyone offering him 5 years; the strikeout problem he has will not age well making even 4 years a risk.

RC Dodger

The Soto signing for $765 million further confirms the value of the Ohtani deal that seemed crazy last year. As hitters, Soto and Ohtani are comparable with Soto having a slightly higher career OPS. Soto has the better OBP and Ohtani has more power. Soto is much younger and plays OF, but Ohtani is a much better base runner. Just as offensive players only, the Ohtani contract at $700 million is better than Soto contract at $765 million. Of course, Ohtani is also an all star pitcher, his contract has $680 million in deferrals and NPV of $460 million, and the additional marketing revenues probably pay for his whole contract. Maybe the economics of MLB have changed forever, but it seems that the Dodgers are better off not signing Soto to that deal.
The Conforto deal at $17 million is peanuts to the Dodgers, but unless there are deferrals, it seems like a slight overpay for a 32 year old platoon player who is injury prone with OPS of 759, 718 and 729 the last three seasons he played. But Friedman is a genius so it will probably work out.
Great to see Treinen back again with the Dodgers. He was crucial to the Championship and played for only $1 million in 2024. He is a bullpen leader and when healthy one of the best relievers in the game. Important to retain and reward the players who sacrificed to win a World Series title. And Blake was one of the most important contributors.

Jorge Valenzuela

What if Betts starts the season in RF and Lux ​​at 2B? That solves, at least at the start of the season, the infield and outfield situation, and at trade dateline and depending on the situation, move Lux and return Betts to 2B.

Northmsdodger

I must say I have been upset with the way the Dodgers have handled the Teo hernandez situation .We could have signed during the season .We could have signed him after the World series
I am very outdone.But it doesn’t matter.

Bumsrap

I’m just tuning in here and have not read today’s comments on the previous thread yet. I have thoughts on Soto signing with the Mets. I think the Mets were given assurances that if they were the high bidder Soto would sign with them. Otherwise if the Mets were not given that assurance they could have said they were out of the Soto contest and Soto’s offer from the Yankees would have been much lower.

Conforto was a good signing, I guess. Boring though.

Singing the Blue

Astros apparently are willing to listen on Kyle Tucker.

They really want to bring back Bregman and won’t be able to keep both guys.

Since Bregman will probably get in the 170-200 million range this winter while Tucker might get twice that much next winter, they’ve decided Bregman is the way they want to go if possible.

So what are we prepared to give the Astros for one year of Kyle Tucker? Next year will be his age 28 season.

He is not represented by Boras and was willing to talk extension with the Astros this year, so it’s possible we could extend him without his going to free agency.

Last edited 5 months ago by Singing the Blue
Bluto

Per Doug McKain:

Andrew Friedman says that Roki Sasaki is a major priority for the Dodgers:

“He is someone that obviously is a major priority for us and we’re going to do whatever we can, and know that there are a lot of other teams that are going to do the exact same thing.”

Friedman went on to say Sasaki is capable of being the best pitcher in the world.

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