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Karl Spooner: What Might Have Been

Around the same time that a young Sandy Koufax was being brought along slowly with the Dodgers, they had another flame-throwing lefty in the system. His name was Karl Spooner.

Spooner was born on the 23rd of June, 1931 in Oriskany New York. His dad, Maurice, was a farmer and 61 years old when Karl was born. When Karl was 5, his six year old sister, Geraldine, died from the complications of measles. He would later name his second born daughter after her.

Karl was just learning the game of baseball when he was 11 and his father passed away. At 17, his mother, Nellie, was found dead in her bedroom of a massive stroke.

He was taken in by his cousins, Stanley and Bernice Spooner. He stayed with various family and friends until his baseball career took him away from home.

He learned to play the game with childhood friends on the field behind the school. He played every chance he got, and first put on a uniform in junior high under his coach, Ben Livermore.

He played not only in school, but was a member of the Oriskany Falls town team. He played catcher until his pitching talent was discovered. He threw a fastball, curve and sinker, all of them fast.

Umpires did not like umpiring when he was on the mound, partially because it became boring calling strike after strike, and partially because their credibility would be called into question for doing so. He was also a pretty good hitter.

He was strong and tough, especially on the basketball court where he played a physically tough style of basketball. No story about Spooner would be complete without mentioning the clock tower on the Oriskany Falls United Methodist Church, located in the center of town.

The tower was the target of many a snowball in the winter, and Karl was the undisputed king at hitting the tower. Be it the bells, throwing over the tower, or trying to break the hands or hit the numbers, he found out at an early age just how good his arm was.

It took accuracy and power to just hit the tower. He had both. He once put a cow in the tower as a joke. In August of 1950, Karl was signed by Dodger scout Greg Mulleavy for the sum of 600 dollars.

Mulleavy had scouted him while he was playing for Clinton. He did not return to high-school for his senior year, and he did farm work until he started his pro career.

1951 was his first pro season. He was sent to Hornell, New York in the Class-D PONY League, Pennsylvania, Ontario, New York. He had 200 K’s in 170 innings. His record though was 10-12, mostly due to the fact that he walked 163 batters.

His life changed in Hornell because he became part of a new family. Raymond and Lilyan Pratt were season ticket holders, and they would regularly take their daughters, Carol and Norma, to see the Hornell Dodgers. According to Carol, Karl became the son they never had.

Carol and Karl dated for a while, broke up and then got back together. In the spring of 1954 they would marry.

He spent part of 1952 in the Class-C Cotton States League and he struck out 19 batters in a game pitching for Greenwood Mississippi. He also pitched for two Class-B teams that year, but control was still his biggest problem.

IN 1953 he was sent to Pueblo in the Western League. Pueblo was good for him, and a turning point of sorts, he went 11-6, led the league in K’s with 193. And his ERA was 2.53 in 153 innings. He still walked too many, 115. But he was showing signs of being a find.

1954 was a great year for Spooner, not only did he get married, but he had his career year in baseball. He went 21-9 for Ft. Worth of the Texas league. He struck out 262 in 238 innings, he did walk a lot, 162. The 262 K’s were the most in the league since Dizzy Dean struck out 303 in 1931.

He did all that despite missing about a month due to a knee injury he suffered fielding a bunt during practice. He would later have cartilage removed from the knee that December.

Brooklyn decided to give the kid a look. He was wearing a knee brace at the time, and indeed the brace may have caused him to shorten his stride, which led to better control.

On September 22, the day after the Giants clinched the pennant, he not only shut the champs out, he struck out 15, breaking the old record of 13 in a first start set by Cliff Melton of the Giants back in 1937. He also broke another record by striking out 6 in a row, the only batters he faced in the 7th and 8th innings.

As he and his wife approached their hotel they noticed a bunch of people, mostly reporters looking to interview him, so he and Carol sneaked away and spent the afternoon visiting her uncle at his apartment.

This little action cost him an appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show, since a representative of the show was waiting for him outside his hotel room.

Four days later, he shut out the Pirates and struck out 12. That gave him 27 K’s in his first two starts. It set a NL record for the most K’s in two consecutive games, topped only by Bob Feller’s 28.

Spooner was on top of the world. He was given a day by his hometown and had a parade in his honor. He was named King of the Winter Carnival in Old Forge New York, where he allegedly asked the owner of a beaver skinned coat he was loaned if he could keep it to keep him warm in the open air convertible he was riding in.

Some in his small town thought that the arm trouble that would eventually end his career began that day when he threw too many snowballs really hard.

In Brooklyn they would chant, ” we shoulda had spoona soona.” But Shirley Povich said, baseball men like to reserve judgement even after a performance like Spooner had.

Calamity struck early in spring training in 55. As Spooner told it, Podres was supposed to pitch the first three innings, and I the second three, but Podres got in trouble and only went two.”. Spooner attempted to warm up fast, but he probably was not as loose as he would have liked.

He threw too hard too fast. He threw a real good curve to Jim Rivera and stuck him out, but he felt a pull in his shoulder. It did not hurt too bad, so he finished that inning and another. When he took a shower it started to hurt real bad. He could hardly pull his shirt on, so he went and told the trainer.

There are other versions of what happened, but Spooner’s story was confirmed by two teammates, Podres and Carl Erskine. Erskine’s comment was “In those few moments, one of the great arms in Dodger history lost it’s magic.”

The media mentioned the injury, but it took the New York Times ten days to report it. The Dodgers in the meantime managed to keep a lid on lest they be accused of mishandling their prize rookie pitcher.

As it was, Spooner did not appear in a game until May 15. He started against the Reds, but was gone after being knocked out of the game in the third inning.

His next game came on the 5th of June, one day after he was able to see his newborn daughter. He lasted four innings and gave up one earned run and three unearned. Manager Walter Alston decided after that game to use him only in relief.

He pitched well out of the pen and was put back in the rotation in July. He made six starts and lost three. He had a no decision in his other games. Back to the pen in August, he got 3 wins and a loss in 6 appearances. He was 1-1 as a starter.

In September, his last major league win was special. He pitched 5 2/3 innings beating Milwaukee, 10-5 in the game that clinched the pennant for the eventual World Championship team.

He finished the season 8-6 with a 3.65 ERA. In the World Series, he came in in relief of Billy Loes in the fifth inning and pitched three shutout innings in relief. It would be his last quality outing in the majors.

With the Dodgers up in the series, 3-2, he got the start in game 6. Had it not been for a Jim Gilliam error, he might have been the one carried off the field in jubilation rather than Johnny Podres. But Gilliam was late covering second on a steal by Phil Rizzuto. Gil McDougald walked, then Gilliam let a ball hit by Yogi Berra get by him, scoring Rizzuto, Bill Skowron homered and Spooner was gone.

Spooner tried to hang on for three more seasons, but he just could not pitch anymore. He had shoulder surgery which left a 9 inch scar. He tried it one more time with the Cardinals, who had purchased his contract, but at age 28 he was done.

Upstate New York had always been home for the Spooner family, but it was hard to find work. Karl moved the family to Vero Beach where a friend of his, Dave Albrecht, helped him find work. Dave was a golfing and fishing buddy.

Karl worked in construction, and also tended bar, but then he landed a job with the Hatfield Citrus Company, first as a supervisor, then in management. The owner, Jerry Hatfield, and Spooner became good friends.

The citrus industry remains in the family as his son, Kevin, runs his own company. His wife, Carol played a major role emotionally and financially as she worked for Piper Aircraft for 47 years. She became the first female manager of any company located in Vero Beach.

Karl loved being a dad, and they had five children.

Kevin was a very good hitting catcher at Valdosta University. But a wrist fracture his senior year ended his career.

Karl did not talk much about his pro career to his kids, and he did not push them into it. But he was thankful for the opportunities it brought.

In 1981, Spooner was hospitalized with jaundice and went into a coma for 11 days. It turned out he had Hepatitis-C. After a partial recovery, Hatfield told him he could return to work anytime he felt like it.

Hepatitis progressed to become liver cancer.  He and his wife celebrated their 30th wedding anniversary in February of 1984. On April 10th, Spooner died at the age of 52.

In 2002, Spooner was memorialized by his hometown of Oriskany Falls. They named the local Little League field after him. Almost 50 years earlier, Spooner had taken  8 year old Dick Brady, under his wing. He had given him an autographed glove. Now a retired judge, Brady led the effort to honor Spooner.

Present at the dedication were his wife, Carol, three their children and their families. Kevin wore his dad’s 1955 Championship ring. It was one of the few times he would wear it. He told the assembled crowd ” In the last days of his life, my father talked about the hills and about the people, he always considered this his home.

Spooner, even though his career was short, got many requests for autographs. He answered them all.

Today’s medicine probably would have helped Spooner have a longer career. For one thing, he would not have been put into a game without proper warm up time. For another, it sounds like the kind of shoulder injury that many of today’s pitchers get.

Dodger fans can only look back and see he was there such a short time and then he was gone. But he contributed to a World Championship team, and that can never be taken away.

 

 

 

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Badger

Another great story Bear. Thank you.

And Bluto, there’s another one.

Great win last night. Kershaw is our stopper. That’s at least two times he’s ended a losing streak.

Outman to Rojas to Smith. Fantastic defensive play. We don’t see many like that.

Another thing you don’t see often on a Major League field is a bad hop over an infielders head. We needed both those plays to pull this one out.

Is this a turning point? I’d like to think so but we still have starter issues. Until that is remedied I don’t see many shutouts in our future.

Oldbear48

Anytime my friend. I just wish I could have seen him pitch in his prime

OhioDodger

Great post Bear. Very entertaining and informative read. Spooner was before my time as a Dodger fan and I had never heard or read much about him. Darn shame he was mismanaged and it messed up his arm. He would be handled with kid gloves these days.

Oldbear48

Little before my time too. But when I was a kid, I had his baseball card and it had the info about his first two games on the back. There was not anywhere you could read up about the older players back then unless there was something in the Sporting News or a baseball publication. Now with the internet, you can get all sorts of info.

Bumsrap

Good read Bear.

Joc and Giants are humbling Padres.

Singing the Blue

In my younger years, I grew up reading about Jack and the Beanstalk.
Now, in my declining years, I’m reading about Joc and the Giants.

I was definitely thinking about you last night, Fred, when I saw the video of Joc’s game-tying homer followed by video of his walk-off walk and that great bat flip.

Bumsrap

It’s not like I have a high bar before someone becomes my favorite player. Before Joc it was James Loney. I’m hoping Outman will play enough and well enough for him to become my favorite player.

Joc did a good job of hanging in against the Padres lefty closer Josh Hader before working the walk. He seems determined to hit lefties.

Fred Vogel

Thanks, Bear, for yet another informative article. Great baseball card by the way. Is it one of yours?

Oldbear48

That one was taken off of the internet, but I have that card. I also have a couple other Spooner cards.

Jeff Dominique

Jeff Dominique

Three of the four LAD affiliates have clinched playoff spots with 1st half championships: OKC, Great Lakes, and Rancho Cucamonga. Tulsa remains in a 1st place tie with Arkansas Travelers (Seattle) with identical 40-24 records. The first half ends after their June 25 game against NW Arkansas. Tulsa has to beat Arkansas outright. If both teams remain tied, Arkansas holds the tie breaker. River Ryan starts for Tulsa tonight.

AAA

Hunter Feduccia finished with a game-high three hits, going 3-for-5 with a double, RBI and game-high three runs scored. He has reached base 13 times over his last four games and has hit safely in a season-high six consecutive games, going 11-for-21 with four doubles, six RBI, seven walks and seven runs scored. He is now batting .285/.408/.450/.858.

In his OKC team debut, David Dahl collected two doubles and a RBI as the designated hitter. He signed with the Dodgers as a minor league free agent June 20. He made the San Diego Padres’ Opening Day roster and played four games before sustaining a right quad injury. He also made 17 appearances with Triple-A El Paso this season.
 
Daniel Hudson continued his rehab assignment after spending time with the Arizona Complex League Dodgers. He pitched one scoreless inning, allowing one hit with a strikeout. He threw 12 pitches including eight strikes. He has been on the Los Angeles Dodgers Injured List all season due to a left knee injury. Phil Bickford began a rehab assignment after being placed on the Dodgers’ IL June 3 with lower back tightness. He pitched a scoreless and hitless inning with one strikeout, throwing 10 pitches, including eight strikes.
 
 
AA
 
Tulsa Drillers manager Scott Hennessey has announced that he will be taking a temporary, medical leave of absence. Hennessey has been diagnosed with a form of cancer and will begin treatments at the conclusion of the first-half of the season.
Doctors have identified his cancer as Stage 3, curable squamous cell carcinoma. Testing has revealed that it has not spread beyond the initial area in his neck, and his long-term prognosis is very good.
 
Hennessey will take the temporary leave of absence to undergo several weeks of chemotherapy treatment in either Tulsa or Los Angeles. During the process, he hopes to occasionally visit ONEOK Field when his treatments and condition allow.
 
“I would like to say thank you for the heartfelt words of support that have been extended to myself and my wife Deanne since my diagnosis,” said Hennessey. “I have felt a special bond with the city of Tulsa since my first day here. We not only have some of the best baseball fans in the country, but some of the best people. We are going to fight this battle with everything we have, and I plan on being back in the dugout very soon.”
 

High A

22 year old LHSP Justin Wrobleski pitched 6.0 innings (77 pitches/56 strikes). He allowed 1 run on 5 hits 0 BB, and 5 K. His ERA is now down to 2.84. I smell a AA promotion coming up for Justin soon.

A

18 year old RHSP Payton Martin pitched 3.0 innings. He did not allow a run on 1 hit, 1 BB, and 6 K. His ERA is down to 1.82. The Dodgers like to bring their young pitchers along slowly, but he just has to get a Great Lakes promotion sometime this summer, right? 

Josue De Paula (turned 18 on 05/24/2023) went 1-4. He is now batting .224/.357/.397/.754. Not in the Wander Franco or Vlad Jr. range, but impressive nonetheless for an 18 year old in full season A ball.

Scott Andes

Great work on this site Jeff. Even greater job calling out that blowhard Timmons. Keep up the good work.

Bluto

I reread yesterday’s post, what are you talking about?

Scott Andes

In Jeff’s article he directly responds to Mark’s idiotic boasting about coming back with a vengeance and rubbing people’s noses in him being right about the Dodgers. Do you need me to link and quote you?,

Bluto

Sure. I didn’t see Mark’s name or blog.

Scott Andes

He posted this, “ So make fun of me all you want. I will come back with a vengeance! I”

and this… “This team will make the playoffs, and I will rub your snotty little noses in it. Watch and learn. Nine years running, I have been right. This will make 10.”

Jeff responded “I will continue to question the current makeup of the roster as it is now. I have not quit on the team. So I am not going to let someone rub my snotty little nose in it because he always thinks he is smarter than every other LAD fan on the planet and picks the Dodgers to win every year. Gee, so do I, and I bet most LAD fans do as well. I bet he picked the Dodgers to win in the 90’s as well.”

And…”If you choose to blindly follow the team without question, then what is the point of blogging about the team? Just say the Dodgers will win the WS this year and every year and let it go.”

Bravo Jeff. I’m clapping. You deserve a standing ovation for calling out that blowhard. Who actually talks like that? We’re all Dodger fans here. How stupid is that?

Badger

No snark here Scott. That can be left elsewhere.

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Bluto

This is the way.

Although I’ve been accused elsewhere of having snark.

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Scott Andes

I’m just getting warmed up Badger.  😎 

Badger

Ok. I do understand. I got away from it too. And I left it there.

It’s entirely up to you what you want to do with it.

Scott Andes

Just wait lolz. If I find the time to write the article I have in mind. That’s why you are here.

Bluto

Scott, if you think anyone is here for snark you are sadly mistaken.

Scott Andes

My snark is at least served with a side of truth Bluto

Scott Andes

Snark! Snark! SNARK!

GO DODGERS!

Scott Andes

If you don’t fight back, he’ll keep bullying people forever.

Bluto

Who the duck are you talking about?!!!

Are you back on Mark again?!?

why the fuck are you talking about him here? He has his own blog!

just keep it to the Dodgers.

Scott Andes

You know who I’m talking about Bluto. Because he’s a Jerk Bluto. Also I was piggybacking off of Jeff’s last post which was also a comment on Mark’s post. Stop defending him.

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Jeff

Scott, it’s impossible to reason or fight with that guy. It’s also a waste of time.

Scott Andes

Gotta stand up to bullies, or they never stop.

Scott Andes

Also don’t defend him

OhioDodger

So when do the Dodgers cut bait with Barnes and bring up Feduccia? I would like to see the Dodgers move Will Smith to LF. It would immediately solve our outfield problems. Then trade for Salvador Perez.

Oldbear48

Problem is, KC is not going to trade that guy. Not a chance.

Scott Andes

Hopefully soon. Barnes is atrocious. He’s making Bill Bergen look like Babe Ruth.

Bluto

They just extended Barnes.
Smith has exactly zero point zero reasons to move to LF.

Come on!

OhioDodger

No reason except his health and length of career. COME ON!!

Scott Andes

They Could just DH him, Not this year with JDM taking that spot, but if they can find a decent hitting backup next year.

OhioDodger

I think he is athletic enough to play LF. That would solve the problem of needing an outfielder that can hit lefties.

Bluto

How much do slightly above-average LF make?
How much do all-star C make?

DHing is even less of an option than LF, which will never happen.

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OhioDodger

Perhaps he would be a really good LF.

Bluto
  1. Not with those stats.
  2. Why take the chance, if you were him?
Badger

The concern is of course concussions. He has the doctors clearance to play, which doesn’t mean much as it’s a team doctor. If and when Cartaya or Rushing is ready, move him.

Oldbear48

3rd base would seem more of an option. I think he played there a few times in the minors

Badger

Fine with me. Though Busch looks good there, he might be traded. As you know, I have Vargas there.

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Jeff

I could see trading both Vargas and Busch. I’d like to see the FO invest in a positional player or two, a starting pitcher, and relievers instead of going after a player like Ohtani. Not that he’s not good, but we have holes that need to be filled in order to make a team out of this group.

Bluto

He’s only had one right?

Not that one concussion is not a lot. And also not to mention that concussions are more common to an individual as they grow in frequency.

That said, if any team starts trading catchers after just one concussion, there is a LOT of variance introduced.

Oh. What do I know?

Oldbear48

You really want someone to answer that?????? 😂  😂  😂 

Badger

I’ll try.

Everyone is different. But there are considerations.

  • The number of concussions you’ve had. Because the brain is more vulnerable to injury after sustaining a concussion, it may take significantly less force to cause a future concussion. Also, future concussions may result in more severe and longer-lasting symptoms.
  • The length of your recovery after each concussion. Each subsequent concussion usually results in a longer recovery period. Although you may feel better quickly, cognitive problems such as balance issues and trouble focusing can last for a long time.
  • The type of symptoms and when they started. The severity of your symptoms (such as dizziness, drowsiness, headache and memory problems) does NOT indicate the level of damage that was done to the brain. Generally, worse symptoms require a longer recovery time and may make your doctor more likely to recommend discontinuing your sport.
  • The time elapsed since your last concussion. Multiple concussions within a short timeframe can leave your brain more vulnerable to injury. If you’re still experiencing symptoms of a previous concussion and then sustain another concussion, you could be at risk of a rare but fatal condition called second-impact syndrome that causes swelling in the brain.
  • What kind of force caused each concussion. The force required to cause a concussion varies from person to person. However, a history of previous concussions can make you more likely to suffer another concussion after a relatively minor blow to the head.

Is it worth the risk?

Bluto

At some point, I guess, programs the decision will be taken out of his hands, but…

his best path to the best contact is being the plate

Oldbear48

Two catchers got released by their teams today, Sandy Leon and Mike Zunino. I do not think either makes the Dodgers better.

Jeff

Ask an AI bot.

Bluto

Payton Martin is having a fantastic first year as a pro,he’s posted a great 1.82 ERA with 10.62 strikeouts per nine innings. Interesting that he’s a ground ball machine, forcing them at a rate over 50%, leading to the fact that he has only allowed one homer in the entire season.

Jeff, what do you know about his repertoire? To me? He’s looking like a Day Three draft steal for the Dodgers.

Jeff Dominique

Right now I am simply intrigued. He is on my radar watch, but at RC I do not get a lot of TV games to watch him. Like most LAD young prospects, he is not going more than 3.0 IP per outing. Here is a scouting report, including a self analysis:

Armed with a pounding fastball that touches 97 MPH, mind you at eighteen years old, the right-handed Martin shows flashes of former big league power arm Garrett Richards each time he takes the mound.

Mechanically speaking there is a lot to like about Martin. He works quickly and efficiently through the zone while keeping within himself in higher-leverage situations. A chunk of his effectiveness comes from an ability to back up his fastball with a swing-and-miss change-up that he can drop as low as 82mph. Though the rest of his repertoire is still in the realms of development there is a observable spark of electricity with what he already brings to the table.

“I like to throw my sliders out of the zone, fastball on top of the zone. I just added a curveball and change-up too. They’re coming along pretty good, I just need to stay consistent on my change-up. The curveball is a work in progress but it will come along.”

Martin maintains a solid ability to produce ground balls which is always a plus for strikeout pitchers. 

I do not like comps to Garrett Richards. Richards while at times was outstanding he was a TJ waiting to happen (and it did). He was never the same. Like many of these types, he has a lot of reliever risk. But he will get every opportunity to start, until he can’t.

Bluto

A small apology to Badger that will probably earn me deserved ridicule and possible banishment.

I had no idea Koufax retired due to arm trouble.

Please delete/ignore/pretend it never existed to my reply from yesterday.

Singing the Blue

The internet is forever.
Being more tolerant over here we will allow you one more of those before banishing you permanently.

Bluto

Which is why I protect my real life and only use fake names.

Oldbear48

Your safe Bluto. Besides, why would anyone banish a guy who uses Popeye’s arch enemy as a cover????????

Badger

I say we put him on probation for a while…

ok, times up

I must have missed it. I find nothing Bluto says offensive. Quite the opposite.

Oldbear48

Neither do I. I do get a giggle out of Bum’s incessant need to trade Muncy though. Right now I am not sure what kind of a return we would get for Max.

Bumsrap

It’s more a habit and fun now than realistic commentary.

Badger

I’m in on a trade that I like. Muncy and Alcantara are both having off years. I’d do that one, as long as the team doctors approve it.

Jeff

I watched a clip of Max doing rehab work. My overwhelming impression of him was his non athletic body. I’ll give him kudos for trying so hard but a Jason Heyward he will never be. I’m surprised they don’t put him on a diet. He must be 20lbs too heavy. If you want to change your body, you need to get your body fat reduced and build strength and mobility from there. So many baseball players are fat. HR’s do that to you. Lazy.

Badger

I get your point Jeff. I’ve often felt the same way – he could lose 10 pounds and it would only help.

I watched him doing sprints in shorts yesterday. He has a stout lower body, comic book calves, so, maybe thick is just how he’s built.

This team needs him doing what he does and that is OPS’n over .800. Until they make a move on his roster spot, he remains an important team member.

tedraymond

Come on Bluto. To be banned for that oversight? Not a chance. Although, it’s hard to believe you weren’t aware that fact. Lol. You provide too many good comments and especially the “links” posts.
Sir, carry on!

Bluto

Was being a bit facetious

Oldbear48

Last night Joe Adell, the Angel prospect, hit a 514 foot homer. The video is on yahoo news if you want to see it.

Jeff Dominique




If there is a player who has torn up AAA pitching and not transferred that to MLB it is Jo Adell. If LAA has run out of patience with him, I would not mind seeing the Dodgers grab him.

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Scott Andes

Can he hit above the Mendoza line? Seems like a feast or famine guy.

Oldbear48

Hitting .284 at AAA. Got only 3 at bats with the Angels so far and the hit was a homer. .215 hitter so far in the bigs. Might just need a different organization to turn it around. Still just 24 years old. Might just be a late bloomer.

Jeff Dominique

He has a career .900+ MiLB OPS. He is 24, and has failed at the MLB level. Maybe he cannot play next to Trout. He may be a Mendoza line candidate. I am not saying give up a top 100 prospect for him, but he would not be the first prospect to fail and then come back to find success. All I am saying is that sometimes these guys are worth a gamble. He is a former multi-year Baseball America, MLB Pipeline, and Baseball Prospectus top 10 prospect. He is certainly better than any LAD prospect at AAA or AA.

Bluto

Was he or was he not part of the infamous Andy Pages,Rengifo deal?

Jeff Dominique

He was not reported to be. Maybe Ward was the unknown?

Scott Andes

He is certainly better than any LAD prospect at AAA or AA.”

I Don’t disagree with you. You’re talking about that vaunted Dodger’s farm system that produces so many .200 hitters?

Bumsrap

He is a righty bat.
Busch for Adell? Busch made several good plays at third on ground balls that were hammered. He might stick at third.

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Badger

I’d do a Swift for Adele trade.

ok, I’ll try that again

Reverse the Alvarez trade. Bickford for Adell.

I didn’t think any of that through. I’m waiting for my leftover pizza to heat up.

Oldbear48

Angels most likely have lost Urshela for the season. His pelvic fracture will no doubt keep him on the shelf.

Bluto

According to the trade calculator Adell has .1 value.

Basically can be had for cash.

I don’t think this is far off the mark. As Jeff has alluded to he has had more than one cup of coffee and not impressed.

Badger

He’s our kind of guy. Van Skyhack can teach him how to work BB’s, he hits one 500’ a couple times a month and the fans go nuts.

While on the subject of long home runs, I think maybe anything over 450’ should count for 2. Kinda like the 3 point shot only 2 instead of 1.

Run that by committee and get back to me.

My pizza is ready.

Carry out.

(see what I did there)

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Bumsrap

Adell had a ball bounce off his glove and go over the fence for a home run. Angels should have traded him 3 years ago.

Carry out. Yes I did see what you did there.

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Badger

What about my Swift for Adele joke. Was it that bad? Maybe should have read Adele for Swift.

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Jeff

3 errors in his short stint at 3B and no consistent hitting observed.

tedraymond

Another fantastic historical lookback with this piece on Karl Spooner. It’s so difficult to get to the majors. To have such a talented player have his career cut short by such an innocent act is a sad story. I think you had mentioned Spooner a while back on LADT about his outstanding potential. I had heard of him but had no idea of how talented he was. So, thanks for informing us about this player from the super talented 1950’s Brooklyn teams.

I’m up visiting cousins up in Victor, ID. for the next week. Victor is due west of the Grand Tetons and Jackson Hole, WY. Fantastic view of the Tetons from his back deck. It nice to get out of the Los Angeles area and breathe from fresh air.

It appeared the Dodgers got some breaks to gain the win last night. Kershaw has to be the Dodger’s MVP so far. What a warrior and excellent example for the rookies to watch. Hopefully, the win will start a turnaround for the team.
Carry on.

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Oldbear48

Thanks Ted, if you are ever back in Canon again, we can hook up at Mugs. Great place for breakfast and even lunch. I had some friends visiting from Indiana on the 11th of June. We went there for brunch. I had eggs benedict with bacon instead of the ham. It was great. Then we went to a friends house and played music for a while. There is probably a long list of players who for some reason or another had the same type of thing happen to them as happened to Spooner. I remember a kid the Cardinals had, Von McDaniel. Lindy’s little brother. He had an outstanding rookie debut, 7-5 3.22 ERA with two shutouts, Next season, he could not find home plate. Pitched in 2 games and never pitched in the majors again. He actually had a decent year at D ball in 59, going 13-5 at Daytona. But after that , he switched to the outfield, Rick Ankiel anyone? But he never made it above AAA.

tedraymond

I’m going to be Canon City September 12-16th. My friend who lives there goes to Muggs everyday for breakfast during the week. I will get in contact with you when I get there.

Oldbear48

Both Rosenthal and many MLB players feel that Ohtani will end up with the Dodgers, so maybe I am missing something.

Scott Andes

If Friedman won’t spend 5 bucks on pitching, I don’t think he is going to spend 500 million for Ohtani

Oldbear48

He spent a lot more than 5 bucks on a few. But 400 to 500 for one guy, not likely.

Badger

I think it depends on how it’s constructed.

Hes on course for 10 WAR again. If he can do that until he’s 32, front load the sh*t out of that contract, $40 million per for 5 years, $25 million until he’s 36, then spread it out over his lifetime. Whatever while he still plays, he could probably DH until he’s 40, then like maybe $4mil a year until he’s 100. I may not have added that correctly, but you get the idea.

Bluto

We can only hope Bear.

Oldbear48

Hope can be a good thing. I keep hoping I live long enough to see another Dodger World Series win. But I want it to be in a full season again. Two of the last three came in truncated years and people keep saying they do not count. Which I think is pure BS.

Badger

Everything counts. The Asstros cheating year counts. Barry Bonds 73 home runs counts. The Lakers Bubble Championship counts and the Dodgers Cardboard Cutout Championship counts.

The good, the bad and the ugly. It all counts.

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Scott Andes

 agreed!

Bumsrap

Even Dracula counts.

Badger

Count Dracula!

Good one.

Bumsrap

Better than Swift for Adell?

Bumsrap

Taylor has lots of hits.

Badger

She looks good playing them too.

Badger

Bullpen looked just fine tonight.

Singing the Blue

Red Sox add to their ex-Dodger collection by getting Tayler Scott from L.A. for cash considerations.

Andrew Friedman announces he will add that cash to his Ohtani offer which will now be $500MM plus $37.00.

Badger

That outta do it.

Jeff Dominique

OK. So I wanted an article with 100 comments.

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