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Looking in Rear View Mirror of Trade Deadline Review

It has been 3 weeks since the trade deadline.  I find it curious when fans comment that AF does not know how to compete for the WS when he did not come up with Luis Castillo, Frankie Montas, or even Tyler Mahle or Nathan Eovaldi.  I am speaking more of the commenters on The Athletic and MLBTradeRumors, many of which are LAD haters.

  • Luis Castillo – 4 Games, 25.2 IP, 3.16 ERA, 1.130 WHIP, 29/7 (K/BB)
  • Frankie Montas – 3 Games, 14.0 IP, 9.00 ERA, 1.714 WHIP, 8/6 (K/BB)
  • Tyler Mahle – IL with shoulder issue
  • Nathan Eovaldi – to go on IL with neck and shoulder soreness

None of those are worth the quality and quantity of top prospects it would have taken to consummate the trade.  IMO it made more sense to wait for Dustin May and Clayton Kershaw.  We saw what Dustin May could do, and he still has 8-9 more starts to fine tune his repertoire.  His new changeup looked like it could become a special pitch like his slider.

 

Let’s take a look at that slider.

 

Austin Barnes had a few comments on Dustin’s first start.

 

“The ball’s coming in really hot,” catcher Austin Barnes said. 

“It’s moving, going this way and then he’s got some stuff going that way. He’s got a good four-seam that can rise at the top, too. By the time he throws that breaking ball at you, it’s hard to adjust to all those speeds and all those movements. 

“That kind of pitcher, the sky’s kind of the limit for him.” 

“He’s a special kind of pitcher,” Barnes said.

 

I am willing to bet on Clayton Kershaw, even with his mediocre to poor playoff resume.  Some of those games he has been absolutely brilliant.  Some not so much.  He has pitched well this year when healthy, so if he is healthy, I like the Dodgers chances with CK on the bump.

Andrew Benintendi was considered the best bat available after Juan Soto and Josh Bell.  We also know that NYY traded for Benny because of their dissatisfaction with Joey Gallo.  Since the trades:

  • Benintendi – .211/.322/.368/.691 – 1 HR, 22% K Rate and 14.3% BB Rate, .158 ISO
  • Gallo – .267/.371/.667/1.038 – 3 HR, 40% K Rate, 11.4% BB Rate, .400 ISO

Another reason why we are writing in a blog and not making decisions; relief pitching trades.  Many names were thrown out there…David Robertson, Jorge Lopez, Scott Effross, and even Raisel Iglesias.  I know Josh Hader was mentioned, but nobody expected AF to pay the price most acknowledged it would take.  But I cannot remember ever reading about why Chris Martin should be the choice.

Since the trade:

  • Raisel Iglesias – 9 games, 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 0.913 WHIP, 1 Save/1 BS, 8/2 (K/BB)
  • Josh Hader – 5 games, 3.1 IP, 16.20 ERA, 3.000 WHIP, 0 Save/1 BS, 4/5 (K/BB)
  • David Robertson – 8 games, 8.2 IP, 2.08 ERA, 1.038 WHIP, 3 Saves/1 BS, 11/3 (K/BB)
  • Jorge Lopez – 8 games, 8.0 IP, 3.38 ERA, 1.500 WHIP, 3 Saves/2 BS, 6/4 (K/BB)
  • Scott Effross – Going on the IL with shoulder issues.

Iglesias was a salary dump as this is the first year of a 4 year $58MM contract that Atlanta will absorb.  His contract calls for $16MM for each of 2023-2025.  I think AF passes on that contract all day long.

And AF picks up Chris Martin.

  • C-Mart – 9 games, 9.1 IP, 1.93 ERA, 0.429 WHIP, No Save Opportunities, 12/0 (K/BB)

He does have 3 wins in those 9 games.

Finally, let’s review the Padres deadline trade acquisitions.

  • Juan Soto – .286/.438/.460/.898
  • Josh Bell – .138/.263/.262/.525
  • Brandon Drury – .212/.264/.394/.658

Add in Josh Hader, and that is not the return AJ Preller was looking for…thus far.

We can review again at the end of the season, but both the Gallo and C-Mart trades look to be solid, and the non-trades for the starting pitchers and other relievers are proving to be just as positive.

 

 

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Fred Vogel

Good write-up Jeff. Coldplay has been a pleasant surprise. He just keeps pounding the zone. I like what I’ve seen from Gallo. Smith and Muncy both 0-5 yet the team scores 10. You never know which guys will step up each game. Thompson absolutely annihilated that home run ball. Hopefully Taylor will turn the corner but I’m not holding my breath. Lux’s neck is a concern. Alberto with a 1.80 ERA and a .248 BA is fun to watch. RIP Len Dawson.

OhioDodger

I guess AF does know what he is doing. Turns out, many times, the best trade is no trade. Most of those decisions were fairly easy as the asking price was grossly inflated.

What do the Dodgers do with Taylor? He is a mess.

Badger

I think Castillo would have been an excellent fit on this particular team. I don’t know much about Seattle other than it’s often cool and wet up there.

Gonsolin 77 pitches. Hmm. Maybe that’s how to save arms for the post season – short outings, minimal number of pitches, turn it over to the pen. Might work.

Oldbear48

Roberts said after the game that with a big lead, he pulled him because he did not have his best stuff. Makes sense to me. And the pen has been good. Why push the envelope.

Badger

Why push the envelope I buy. Not sure I buy the excuse. 5 IP, 77 pitches. That’s good. 1 earned. That’s very good. WHIP of 1 which is excellent. With a big lead let’s give him some rest. He’s now matched the most IP in his career, which was done in the minors. Uncharted territory now through October.

Bluto

Badger,

Everything is uncharted.

Nothing about the future is known.

Just enjoy the ride.

Badger

I do every year Bluto.

Badger

Well, Seattle’s top 5 and our top 5 are very different. But, no I would not have traded 3 of our top 5 for him. Maybe one. All I said was he would have looked good in our rotation.

Initially I didn’t count May as an every 5th day starter through October. Not sure now. We still haven’t seen Kershaw, so, I don’t know how good he will be going forward. I wouldn’t say “uncharted” as Bluto did as that suggests management has no map, and I believe they do. I think Friedman is charting several moves ahead. That said, he didn’t chart Scherzer and Uriah’s tired arms last year did he.

I always want more better pitching.

Last edited 3 months ago by Badger
Badger

I appreciate the opportunity for conversation

As you know, my concerns are tired arms with our two best starters. Maybe there’s nothing to be concerned about, Gonsolin will have no problem doubling his regular starts and have plenty in the tank for 6 more QS in October. Urias knows what happened to him and will be prepared to finish the last 18 innings as well as he pitched the first 180 innings.

Kershaw? Yeah, sure. He should be fine. He has a simulated game on the 27th, and if he comes out of that ok, he’ll be activated for his next turn in the rotation. May. He looks like a beast. Easy Big Red. There’s a ways to go to the finish line.

Now, the bullpen. It’s going to have a different look soon. We are assuming Treinen and Graterol (0.944 WHIP) will come back 100%. They do, we should be fine. We may not need Kimbrel for any tight games we encounter post season.

The offense passes gas on occasion but I’m not at all concerned about it.

Last edited 3 months ago by Badger
Bluto

Grove is really in a groove (ugh, apologies)

Hopefully it’s a turned corner.

There is a definite pre-cursor to a glut of MLB-ready pitching.

Not all of it at the same tier (Pepiot vs. Jackson for example), but there’s a lot of it very close to ready.

Bumsrap

late to comment. Up early to play golf. I think Drury will relax on his new team and help more and more as the season progresses.

I don’t think I ever said we needed to trade for pitching.

Soto would have been fun to watch.

Thompson doing everything he can to be a Dodger next year. He has struggled for a couple of years but before his back fracture, he was doing well for the Dodgers.

I haven’t checked on Seager one time. I check on Joc all the time.

Bluto

100% pure luck.

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