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Random Thoughts About The Post and Off Season

I want to start by saying that Jeff has been doing such a tremendous job with this blog.  The effort he puts in every day to provide you with the premium content that he does is incredible.  When he first asked me to help him out by writing articles for the blog, I told him that I could probably write at least one article a week.  Have I ever fallen short of that goal.  Couple that with Harold’s sad death, and Jeff has been left with the daunting task of writing an article every day.  Moreover, as those of you who read this blog regularly know, Jeff’s articles are never “quick and dirty.”  He always puts a lot of thought and information into each article.  So, please join me in raising a glass to Jeff this morning!  Cheers Jeff, you make our Dodger fandom a great deal more enjoyable and we thank you for that!

 

I know it’s the nature of the fan “beast” but I just don’t understand the need to blame someone for the loss.  Virtually in seconds after the final out, the blame game began among Dodger journalists and throughout the blogsphere.  Fire Roberts! Get rid of Belli! Let’s revamp the entire team.  They need more intensity, they need better players, our pitching is crap and even Stevie Wonder could see that.  Blah, blah, blah.  I have played and coached baseball long enough to know that the best team doesn’t always win.  Sometimes they simply get out played by the other team.  As Preacher Roe so famously said “Some days you eat the bear, and some days the bear eats you!”  It happens.  When it does, pick your rear-end off the ground and get ready for the next opportunity.

 

Would having Tyler Anderson go out for the 6th inning have produced a different result?  I don’t know, and neither do you.  If the decision was mine, I probably would have left him in.  But what do I know from sitting in the comfort of my recliner?  Was it wrong to bring in Tommy Kahnle when they did?  In hindsight, absolutely.  But, there was no indication from his prior appearances that he was going to take a dump when he did. In his first two appearances, Kahnle allowed no runs, no hits, no walks and struck out 4.   So tell me why wouldn’t you bring him in to the game in a critical situation?   Well, obviously Phillips was the better option.  Perhaps, but there was nothing wrong with bringing in Kahnle.  Stuff happens and baseball can be a cruel sport.  Would leaving Anderson in for another inning or two innings guaranteed a victory?   I don’t know, and neither do you.  Would bringing in Evan Phillips instead of Kahnle have guaranteed a Dodger victory?  I don’t know, and neither do you. As Badger has pointed out on more than one occasion, the Dodger pitching was vulnerable and that vulnerability played out in the Padres series.  It’s not that they necessarily pitched badly, they just didn’t overwhelm.  No Dodger pitcher (other than Anderson) stepped up and pitched like a shutdown ace.  Not Julio Urías, not Clayton Kershaw, definitely not Tony Gonsolin.  If you look at the Phillies and Astros (I hate writing that), they had pitchers that pitched like aces.  Zack Wheeler and Aaron Nola pitched like aces.  Framber Valdez pitched like an ace.  Before the playoffs, I have to admit I did not know what a Framber Valdez was. I thought perhaps it was a brother ship to the Exxon Valdez that caused the major oil spill in Alaska.  But I’m here to tell you, that dude can pitch.  In addition, both the Phillies and Astros received excellent relief pitching. For example, Seranthony Domínguez in his 7.2 innings pitched, allowed but 3 hits, no walks and struck out 15. 15!!  I’ll take some of that action.  Both teams also struck out a lot of opposing batters.  As a team, the Astros averaged 11.1 strikeouts per 9 innings.  Free Bar B Que for all Astros fans at participating restaurants.  Wait a minute, it appears that this may not be the end all, be all statistic.  The Dodgers, albeit in less games, averaged 11.9 strikeouts per 9 innings.  Yency Almonte in his 2.1 innings averages 23.1 strikeouts per 9 innings.  Kahnle, averaged 18.00 per 9.  The Dodgers also struck out a lot of hitters, so it must have been something else.  And folks, that something else was the lack of clutch hitting, plain and simple.

 

I have to admit, while I didn’t watch a minute of any of the games after the Dodgers lost, I took some sadistic joy in learning that the Padres had lost to the Phillies.  Last year I moved from Riverside to Murrieta, California. Riverside was unquestionably a Dodger town.  You had the occasional Angel fan, but otherwise it was Dodger Blue country.  Murrieta, on the other hand, is predominantly a Padre town.  In the short time I lived here, I can tell you without hesitation that Padre fans are insufferable.  Most Dodger fans I know have been fans for decades upon decades. Even the younger fans, are Dodger fans because their parents, grandparents and great grandparents, as well as their aunts and uncles were Dodger fans.  Moreover, most Dodger fans are fans win or lose.  Padre fans, on the other hand, are relatively new to the game, they have little to no history to relish in and much like Seattle Seahawk fans, they only come out when they’re winning.  And, when they do come out, they can be annoyingly obnoxious.  I don’t think I could have tolerated my neighborhood environment had they gone to the World Series.

 

I also thought it was a cheap maneuver on the part of the Padres’ management, to refuse to sell playoff tickets to anyone that lived in Los Angeles County.  I have attended a few Dodger/Padres games in Petco Park.  It’s a nice environment and it’s walking proximity to the Gaslamp Quarter makes for an enjoyable day at the park.  Most often when I do go, it appears that the Dodger Blue outnumber the Padre brown or whatever ridiculous color they are wearing that day.  I guess you have to do whatever you think might help you gain an advantage.

 

Final Padre thought: do you think that Padre fans are moaning and groaning today about  team needing to move on from Bob Melvin?  I doubt it.  I’m sure they’re disappointed, but let’s face it they’re ecstatic to get to the playoffs and advance as far as they did.  Other than having to figure out what to do with Fernando Tatis, Jr. over the winter, they’ll be as happy as a Canadian Honker in a wheat field.

 

What about the Dodgers?  There are so many decisions to be made.  Jeff has done a nice job on analyzing the starting pitching, infield and outfield to give us a taste of what is to come. I suspect, like most everyone else, that Joey Gallo, Craig Kimbrel, David Price and Kevin Pillar will be gone.  I think Kershaw will return and I don’t have a clue about Anderson, Trea or Justin Turner, Danny Duffy, Kahnle, Hanser or Heaney.  Unless the Dodgers swing a trade with Cleveland for Shane Bieber and José Ramírez, it would not hurt my feelings if they brought Anderson, Kahnle, Turner and Andrew Heaney back.  I probably wouldn’t mind them bringing Duffy back.  Heck we’ve got to see him pitch before we banish him to the Jason Schmidt pasture, right?  I’m ambivalent about Alberto.  He appears to be a nice guy and I’m sure he’s kind to his dog, but is he replaceable?  I would think so.  Then again, he has parlayed a less than mediocre performance this year into more TV time than any other Dodger player in recent memory.  Every Dodger hit had to be followed up with a shot of Alberto tapping the top of his head or doing some other antic.  Nice gig, if you can get it.

 

My thoughts about the Dodger position players are simple:

 

At catcher, you leave things as they are.  Will Smith and Austin Barnes.  I will admit to thinking that Barnes could be a valuable trade chip at the deadline, but then I read that his teammates considered him the team captain and thus, he was not going to be traded.  If the Dodgers happen to trade him to the Texas Rangers, well then you can expect that Kershaw will follow.  None of the younger catchers are quite ready yet.  Though they give us a lot to be excited about.  Diego Cartaya appears to be the real deal.  It’s early to make a complete assessment, but Dalton Rushing is a hitting machine.

 

1st Base: It’s Freddie Freeman’s position until he can go no more.

 

2nd Base: This depends on what happens with Trea Turner.  I may be in the minority, but if he doesn’t sign, then Gavin Lux gets shortstop and you move Max Muncy to second. He has stated that it was his favorite position and I think he could handle it as well as anyone else on the team.  If Turner signs with the Dodgers you leave Lux at second and make Muncy the DH.  Both could also be used as trade bait.  Perhaps Busch can provide some depth in case of injuries.

 

Shortstop: It’s Turner’s position if he signs.  If not, let Lux takeover.  I do not think that the Dodgers sign one of the top free agent shortstops.  The cost would be too great, not only in contract size, but draft capital as well.  If Turner leaves, I can see the Dodgers signing an Andrelton Simmons type player for depth.  I would love to see Jacob Amaya get a chance, I just don’t know if he has the bat to stay in the majors.

 

3rd Base: Unless the Dodgers swing the aforementioned trade for Shane Bieber and José Ramírez, then we’ll probably see JT return.  He and Miguel Vargas can split time there.  Other than that, are you ready for Joey WendleNolan Arenado is not coming to the Dodgers.

 

Left Field: Chris Taylor and James Outman.  Sorry folks, but Joc Pederson is not coming back.  He likes playing near his home.

 

Center Field: Again, I’m probably in the minority, but I think the Dodgers bring Cody Bellinger back.  Sign him to a two year incentive laden contract, that is less annually than he’ll make in arbitration and, at minimum you’ll have a tradeable commodity.  I know that Scott Boras factor plays a part in this, but even Boras is no fool.  Bellinger is not at the height of his marketability and Boras loves to make as much money as he can.  He would be hard pressed to convince GM’s that one of the worse hitters in baseball is deserving of a huge contract.  I’m not sold on Trayce Thompson.  He was fun while it lasted, but he’s got a lot of holes in his swing and frankly, I don’ believe that he is a regular major leaguer.  Also, does anyone want Brandon Nimmo?   I’ll pass.

 

Right Field: Mookie.  Period.

 

Bench: Maybe Edwin Ríos. Michael Busch perhaps.  Outman.  Some unknowns picked up in the Rule 5 draft.

 

Knowing Andrew Friedman and Brandon Gomes, they’ll surprise us with some unexpected trades, free agent signings and players signed from the minor league free agent list.  It happens every year.  I don’t think this year will be any different.

 

I’ll deal with the pitchers later, as this article is taking more time than I thought it would and I need to get back to work.  I will also address the coaching staff and the front office.

 

One last thing, it’s a pet peeve of mine and I know that Jeff has touched on it too, but I would love to see the Dodger minor league pitchers stretched out a lot more than they are.  I don’t have the information that the player development department does, but I truly don’t understand the reluctance to allow the young pitchers to throw more than 60-70 pitches per game.  It’s no wonder that when they get a taste of the big leagues they go 4 innings and poop out.  Let the kids throw.

 

To close this out, I am disappointed the Dodgers lost to the Padres.  However, the sun came up the next morning like it always does and life goes on.  I enjoyed this year as much as any in recent memory.  Winning 111 games is fun and I don’t consider this season a failure for the Dodgers, not by any stretch.  It’s all a matter of perspective I guess.  Baltimore wins 83 games and they had a great year.  The Dodgers win 111 and many consider it a failure.

 

 

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Sam Oyed

Nice writeup.

While I would have kept Anderson in for one more inning, there’s one thing we need to remember. In game 1 Urias pitched great for 4 innings, then gave up 3 runs in the 5th. How many people would have taken him out after just 4 well pitched innings? And how is this different from Anderson?

Dionysus

Trayce Thompson?

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Badger

Nice piece Rob. Thank you.

Murrieta. Don’t know much about it but it seems like a nice place. Riverside. We played them in football and baseball. All I remember is some man child named Bonds that could do whatever he wanted to do in both sports.

I would have left Anderson in too. He was pitching fine. I’m not necessarily a believer in the third time through the lineup, though I recognize what the analytics say. I say let them pitch until they get in trouble. Anderson wasn’t in trouble.

We lost because the team went into a slump at the wrong time. It happens. What can you do to prevent it? Nothing.

I have no problem with Lux at short but I don’t think they’ll do it. I have no clear idea what the team will do. What would I do? Bogaerts probably. If he’s available. I’m fine with Correa if the team is. Wait to see what Arenado does.I hear he likes St Louis. St Louis? Really? St Louis or LA? Come on man. He’s from Orange County. If I’m the Dodgers I check it out. I’d love to see Judge in a Dodger uniform but not for 10 years. Mookie to second does make some sense. Vargas, Rios, Busch, Outman, they are all close. Amaya, Leonard, Pages, Vivas, their ETA says ‘23. Miller, Pepiot, Stone. With all these guys – play ‘em or trade ‘em.

Pitching? Other than a 6 man with who we have now I haven’t given pitching a lot of thought yet. I’ll listen and keep reading.

Couldnt care less about the World Series. I’m with Kornheiser on one point, they should have started it already. I hope it gets snowed out in Philly.

Bumsrap

Cheers to Jeff.

Rob, boring prediction but probably close to what will happen in the off-season.

Fred Vogel

Thanks Rob. Your writing always reminds me of the late, great Allan Malamud but with added caffeine. I say this in admiration as I was a fan of his Notes on a Scorecard articles in the old Herald Examiner and later in the LA Times. I hope to see you here on a more frequent basis.

Rob Schelling

Thank you Fred! I used to love reading Allan Malamud (and Jim Murray). I had not thought of Allan in long, long time. Your reference has given me some thoughts for future articles. I too hope to be here more frequently in the days and weeks to come.

Michael Norris

Thanks Jeff, it is a great site. Nice stuff Rob, food for thought which is the main idea of a blog anyway, right? Mccullogh is a finalist for the Royals job, so there may be a new coach anyway. Skip Schumaker hired by the Marlins. Puig doing well in the Korean playoffs, couple of homers and some nice defensive work. Wainwright coming back for another year. Wants that 200th win. Heading home tomorrow so won’t be posting until I am back in Colorado. Be well guys and gals and enjoy the week.

Singing the Blue

I say bring back Puig! It would inject some life into the team.

Travel safely Bear.

Jeff Dominique

I am okay with Puig back in LA. Is Puig? I do think he gets another shot at MLB.

Singing the Blue

Puig would come back before you could even finish asking the question. But would AF ever ask the question? I’m thinking probably not.

Bumsrap

The guy that threw his luggage off the bus is gone so there is that.

Jeff Dominique

Drive safe Michael.

Singing the Blue

Glad to see we’ll be hearing more from you, Rob. Your articles are always well thought out and lead to good discussions.

I assume that AF will probably work out something to bring Trayce back, but if not, I wouldn’t be totally shocked to see Pillar sign another minor league contract with a chance to make the roster out of ST. He’s a real hard-nosed player and we could use more of those.

Saw an interesting stat this morning (can’t remember where), which pointed out that Lux’s throws from shortstop are among the weakest (slowest mph) of any in MLB. That does not bode well for moving him to shortstop going forward. If that stat is accurate and Andrew has seen it (which I’m sure he has), I’m thinking our 2023 shortstop will be someone other than Mr. Lux, who seems to do just fine at 2nd.

I vote for Bogaerts if Trea doesn’t return, but would be fine with Swanson and I’ve moved past 2017 enough so that I could even put up with Correa if the team itself could.

Jeff Dominique

I agree that Lux will remain at 2B. But I am not convinced the Dodgers will spend for a FA SS. I think the costliest FA SS the Dodgers will consider is José Iglesias. He will be 33 next year, and has a career strikeout % of 12.4%. Wouldn’t it have been nice to send up a hitter who puts the ball in play instead of those three outcome approach RVS proteges? Iglesias can be the place holder until Jake Amaya can show that he can hit ML pitching. Or, Vivas, Leonard, Valera, Doncon, Freeland, McLain, Wagner, Martinus…The Dodgers have to have a SS in their system, don’t they?

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Singing the Blue

Funny you should mention Iglesias. I liked what I saw from him last year, although he sure doesn’t like to take a walk very often. If we sign a major player like Judge or Verlander and use the money that way, I could live with Iglesias for a season, and I assume he can play second and maybe third as well. Who knows, maybe they just pick up Alberto’s option and make him the shortstop. And no, I don’t really think they’ll do that.

Badger

I’d like to see a cannonball size splash. Iglesias ain’t that, but, ok.

I don’t think Judge will leave Gnu Yourk, but I do think he will go to San Francisco.

Amaya fool for believing we will sign a shortstop from outside the organization?

Verlander in a 6 man rotation might could last until he’s 41. He’s made over $300 million in his career so maybe he’s not motivated by money. He’s already won a WS, and knows his team cheated so maybe he thinks he owes the Dodgers something and will play for less than $25 million per.

No, I’m not high, but I do have flashbacks.

Bumsrap

I saw what you did there.

Jeff Dominique

I am not as certain that the Dodgers will make a cannonball splash. I think they are going to need to learn the plight of Trevor Bauer and his $34.0MM AAV. Also what happens to Cody Bellinger? JT and his $16MM option is another open question. If they all go bye-bye there could in fact be a cannonball splash. Will it be for a SS? Justin Verlander? Jacob deGrom?

SS seems to be the position that has the most possibilities for the cannonball splash. I do not believe that the Dodgers will really be in on Aaron Judge. I think they are more inclined to be in on Andrew Benintendi. Starting pitching is another position I think they will concentrate on. Will they be game changers? Or will they play it safe with Tyler Anderson and Clayton Kershaw and hope that Gonsolin and May find a way to shine, as well as Ryan Pepiot, Bobby Miller, Gavin Stone, Michael Grove…

Where I think the Dodgers will make a splash will be in trades. They have a lot of good prospects that they cannot possibly keep all of them. Elite starting pitching and CF should be on their list of wants. They have the prospects to make something happen.

Bumsrap

I wonder if Lux typically doesn’t gun the ball to first when he doesn’t have to and that would be unlike other guys that love to show off their arm.

Bumsrap

Statcast ha Lux’ arm strength in the 36 percentile. Not so good.

Bumsrap

Trea Turner per Statcast is in the 39 percentile. Not much better than Lux.
Jacob Amaya scouting grade for arm strength is 55.
Carlos Correa per statcast for arm strength is 72 percentile. Very good.

Singing the Blue

I’m guessing Oneil Cruz, an ex-Dodger (traded for Tony Watson) is in the 99 percentile.

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