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THE POWER OF SCOTT BORAS

Scott Boras is not a team salary negotiator.  He is a player agent.  His job is to get as much as he can for his client, the player.  It is not his job to manage a team’s payroll.  He finds value for his clients, and he exploits that value better than any player agent in the industry.  So when LAD offered to extend Corey Seager for a reported 8 year $250MM deal, Boras’ apparent response was that he could get a team to give him a contract near the Francisco Lindor contract.  Seager could have said NO, and accepted the LAD offer, but he chose to pursue the 10 years and $300MM+ deal that Boras believed he could get.  He went for the 2 additional years and the “prestige” of being a $325MM player.

I reluctantly acknowledge that Seager not only was not loyal to the Dodgers, but did not need to be.  I think we as fans grow an affinity towards certain players, expect them to be as loyal, and are disheartened when that player leaves; voluntarily or involuntarily.  Seager had been my favorite Dodger since he was drafted, and I miss seeing his name in the lineup.  But I will not cheer for him as a Ranger.  I also do not owe him any of my loyalty as a fan.  He moved on, so will I.  His #5 LAD jersey has gone into the Goodwill pile to make room for the new #5.

I could have understood why Seager might have signed with NYY or Philadelphia.  Both teams are closer to his family in North Carolina, and he grew up a NYY fan.  Both teams needed a SS, and with Seager would be considered strong teams for contention.  They are without him, but he would make both even more of a contender.  Instead, he signed with a team that has no chance for contention for the foreseeable future.  Scott Boras is a mercenary, and will go wherever the money is.  He is not driven by whether a team will contend, but only by $$$.  It is the player that needs to reign Boras in.  Seager chose to go with the $$$.

The Rangers committed $565MM to three players: Seager, Marcus Semien, and Jon Gray.  Their rotation consists of Jon Gray, Martin Perez, and three questions.  Taylor Hearn, Dane Dunning, and Glenn Otto.  Their AAA depth is made up of Spencer Howard, Jake Latz, AJ Alexy, and Cole Winn (Texas’ #3 prospect). Outside of Cole Winn, none would be considered for a future LAD rotation, and I am not sure how much Winn would be considered.  Texas has another top pitching prospect in Jack Leiter.  Jack Leiter is the one non-LAD pitcher I will be following most closely in 2021.  He is currently pitching well in AA (Frisco Roughriders-Texas League).  But even with Winn and Leiter rotation will not be top shelf for some time.

The remainder of their team is bottom third to bottom half of their positional peers in MLB.  In addition, besides the two pitchers, their top two farm hands are Josh Jung (3B) and Justin Foscue (2B).  At least one of them will be blocked by either Seager and/or Semien.  That logjam has been corrected somewhat with Jung having shoulder labrum surgery due to a weightlifting accident.  The former Texas Tech Red Raider will miss most if not all the 2022 season.

It appears clear to me that both Seager and Semien were perfect Scott Boras clients and went where the money was.  Contending was not much of a consideration.  Both played for contenders in 2021, and both of those teams did want to retain them, just not at the $$$ Boras got.

Boras had a third client sign for a massive contract.  37-year-old RHSP Max Scherzer signed a three year $130MM deal for the highest AAV in MLB history.  Unbelievable for a pitcher who came down with a dead arm in the NLCS.  Initially he blamed that on the Dodgers for the dead arm.

Could it be that he is two years older in 2021 than he was in 2019, and that 2020 was pretty much a lost year?  That is certainly just as believable as his initial recollection and comparison to 2019.  But Scott Boras was undeterred and found Steve Cohen willing and able to commit to three years and $130MM deal for the 37-year-old.  Scherzer may go on to win the NL CY Young, but he is also likely to continue what many suspect is a regression in his performance due to his age.  Greg Maddux and more recently Zack Greinke began to regress after their 36-year-old seasons, while others pitched very well into their 40’s.  Roger Clemens won a CYA at 41 and was #3 at 42.  But many suspect that PEDs gave him an advantage.  Nolan Ryan and Randy Johnson both pitched well into their 40’s.  We do not yet know how much longer Clayton Kershaw will pitch (effectively).  But we do know that he is not going to pitch into his 37-year-old season.  So will Max be a Kershaw, Maddux, or Greinke?  Or will he be more like Clemens, Ryan, and Johnson.  $130MM is a lot to gamble that it will be the latter.  But that is the genius of Scott Boras.

Boras has six additional players sign:

He also signed Matthew Boyd (RHSP) to a 1 year $5.2MM deal with $2.5MM available in incentives, with San Francisco.

He is also the agent for Michael Conforto who will miss 2022 because of shoulder surgery.  Boras will convince some team he is worth a multi-year deal with an opt out.

Looking at some of his other negotiated deals for players like Gerrit Cole, Stephen Strasburg, Anthony Rendon, Jose Altuve, Mike Moustakas, Bryce Harper, Xander Bogaerts, and Eric Hosmer, he gets more value for his clients.  I know fans like to demonize Boras, but he just does his job better than any other player agent.  The owners do not have to agree to his demands.  He will continue to push the envelope, and some owner will pay his price.

Yet another Boras client, Juan Soto, recently made news saying he turned down a 13 year $350MM extension.  He fully expects to sign a $500MM deal when he becomes a FA after the 2024 season.  With Boras as his agent, I will not bet against him.

AF does not appear to be someone who will out negotiate Scott Boras.  LAD has two Boras clients coming up soon, and neither appear to be extension candidates…Cody Bellinger and Julio UriasBrusdar Graterol is another Boras client, but he is several years down the road.  What should LAD do with Bellinger and Urias?  It is easy to say sign them to longer term deals.  However, based on prior Boras negotiations, I would not expect either player to re-sign with LAD.  I may be wrong, but every Boras client that AF has negotiated with, including Seager, Harper, JD Martinez, Cole, Hyun-jin Ryu, Rendon and Zack Britton, all have signed with other teams.  I would therefore expect that both Bellinger and Urias will remain with LAD until they become FAs after the 2023 season, and then move on.  Boras will always negotiate with LAD to drive up the salary.  But somehow, he will always find a more willing organization to pay his price.

 

 

 

 

 

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dodgerpatch

I expected Urias to move on when I saw that Boras was his agent. He’ll be an UFA in 2024. Buehler in 25. I would think the Dodgers, if they were to choose, would opt for Buehler.

I made the point in Mark’s blog that, in the end, I don’t think Seager was served very well by Boras, and this is an example were the interests of the agent and the interests of the client did not align.

Badger

Both Seager and Boras got EXACTLY what they wanted. The interests of the client and the player were perfectly lined up.

As for Urias, he’s had one very good year. He will have this year and two more to set up negotiations for a contract that will take him beyond his prime years. Frankly I’m looking forward to watching him those three years. He may, or may not, be worth what Boras will no doubt be asking.

Last edited 6 months ago by Badger
Singing the Blue

I’m guessing that along with the income tax advantage, Seager might have liked the idea of living in Dallas. It’s a low-key kind of (large) town and he’s very low key.

He was never going to be able to sign with the Marlins or Rays unless he gave them a 50% (or larger) discount. I’m thinking that when he and his wife contemplated living in New York or Philly (two other cities that might have actually offered him a contract), they just decided that they’d rather live in Dallas and wait a few years to be competitive.

I’m also thinking that when AF traded for Turner, Corey may have considered that a bit of disrespect and decided right then and there not to come back.

Badger

I think AF decided Seager wasn’t worth the money.

Bumsrap

Mark made a comment about people beating him like a dog outside of LATD and then comment on LATD like that never happened. This is the only baseball blog I may have mentioned Mark on and I don’t remember beating him like a dog here.

Have I?

dodgerpatch

I saw that comment and wasn’t sure what he meant by it either.

Did you comment on Jeff’s article on May 19? That was a bit of a pile on, but I can’t see posts from it anymore.

Last edited 6 months ago by dodgerpatch
Allen

Hopefully Urias follows Strasburg rexample and stays with the team that brought him up.

Jeff Dominique

I hope so as well, but it will be completely up to Urias. Boras will push for the $$$. Jose Altuve also chose to extend early and stay in Houston for less dollars. Maybe they had better cheating tools???😄

Singing the Blue

At this point, I’m guessing the Nats wish that Strasburg hadn’t been so nice to them and signed that last contract. Seems like he’s been injured at least half the time he’s been with them.

Allen

Yeah; funny how what seemed like a good deal for the Nats has basically brown up. It’s why I have to wonder about people saying the Dodgers should trade/sign for Juan Soto. He’s a great player but 400+million. And right now he’s hitting around .240.

Jeff Dominique

I will be back home tonight to see Ryan Pepiot go up against MadBum. Should be fun to watch.

Bumsrap

Boras probably told Seager to take the money from Texas and like AROD he can leave via trade to the Yankees and play third.

I mistakenly thought the Dodgers could trade Seager and wind up with Lindor and a reasonable contract but both Seager and Lindor wound up with extreme contracts.

Soto will get no more than anybody is willing to pay. Today he could put up a for sale sign in front of his house listed for $350M and 10 years and get multiple offers for lots more. Who knows what the market will be in 2025. It would be nice if he wound up with Betts money.

Regarding Bellinger re-signing, I would rather have Betts and Soto in the Dodger outfield.

I think Urias and Boras both recognize and appreciate that the Dodgers have taken good care of Urias and will want to work with the Dodgers. But by the time he is a free agent, the Dodgers will know what they have in Miller, Petiot, Knack, Jackson, and Stone. Urias, Buehler and Bellinger $$ will go to Soto is my prediction.

Last edited 6 months ago by Bumsrap
Singing the Blue

All depends on how you’re calculating the $ Fred.
Urias, Buehler and Belli will all probably sign for something between $20-30MM per year. Let’s say the three will average $75MM per year together. Soto will cost about half that much.

I don’t know if Andrew worries more about total commitment or commitment per year, but I think he could easily sign Soto plus one of those three without too much trouble.

As you point out, within the next year and a half AF will have a good idea what he has in Miller, Pepiot, Knack and Stone. Jackson may have already removed himself from that list, but we can add Grove. And don’t forget Dustin May and Gonsolin.

Badger

Everybody with a good year behind them will be looking for that multi year 9 figure contract that begins with a crooked number. How many of those will the Dodgers invest in? The strategy wil most certainly include a handful of team controlled (arbitration) players, Mookie, Freeman, Taylor…. and who else? You gonna extend Bellinger? Of the current group of team controlled players, who would you choose to extend?

The Dodgers can afford to do whatever they choose to do, at least for a few more years. I have no idea what the plan is. I still say they will be looking for starting pitching, and I took a load of heat elsewhere for saying that. There will also be currently unseen injuries to deal with. There always are.

Bumsrap

Sorry to hear you are having heat flashes Badger. Pitching and defense is a winning formula and hitting is entertaining. The old Big Red Machine as I remember won with hitting and a great relief corp plus 2 good starters.

Bluto

I fully support every player being able to pursue their maximum earnings.

I have no problem with players putting compensation before championships.

I love, love, love strong private sector unions.

Boras is kinda a cheesy figure with his puns and binders, but he does great work for his clients.

Badger

I fully support a players right to pursue the money too Bluto. Seager followed the money to Texas. I’m sure he’s happy with his decision. Make no mistake, it’s not about winning championships, it’s about the money and to pretend otherwise is folly. He’s got a ring and now he’s got over $300 million. He’s not an All Star, hasn’t been since he was 23, probably won’t be one in Texas either. He’s 28 this year, and barring an injury he will be there what he’s been in LA, a 2-4 WAR player for a few more years before the inevitable slide begins. I said it then and I’ll say it again, he’s not worth $300+ million. In my opinion few, if any, are worth that kind of money.

Who knows where $ per WAR is headed in the coming years. It will likely change of course, but what won’t change is the production curve of Major League Baseball players. The curve is there for all to see. Baseball players have peaked by 30.

Last edited 6 months ago by Badger
Singing the Blue

Can anyone here help me understand why they have Pillar traveling with the team (on the taxi squad), are not playing Max for the second night in a row and are starting Rios against a difficult lefty. Isn’t this what you have Pillar for? I’m beginning to think he won’t be activated and will use his opt out next week to say good-bye. Just makes no sense to me.

Fred Vogel

I thought the same.

Bluto

He’s been with the team for what? A single game without being activated?

so many possible reasons….

Fred Vogel

Sorry to quote The Athletic but this is too funny. Bum…call off your buddy.
Reds outfielder Tommy Pham slapped Giants outfielder Joc Pederson in an altercation before Friday’s game at Great American Ball Park, according to multiple sources.
Pham was scratched just before the rain-delayed game started at 8:48 p.m., more than two hours after the scheduled start time. He was not on the bench in the Reds dugout once the game started.
Sources say the Giants asked for Pham to be removed from the lineup prior to the game, but the Reds resisted until close to game time. Albert Almora Jr. was inserted into the game as the team’s left fielder.
The confrontation happened during the Reds’ batting practice and took place in left field, where Giants pitchers were warming up. Players ran in from both the dugout and the bullpens to break up the action.
During his pregame session with the media, Giants manager Gabe Kapler said he didn’t have enough information to discuss the incident at that time.
“We’re investigating and learning as much as we can about the incident,” Kapler said. “I don’t have much more for you than that right now. I sense that we’ll have a clearer understanding after the game.”
When asked if it was Pham and Pederson that had the issue, Kapler again deferred his comments until later.
“Again, still looking into it,” Kapler said. “Taking it very seriously and learning as much as I and we can as quickly as we can. Not yet prepared to discuss it.”
According to multiple sources, the beef stems from a disagreement the two had in a fantasy football league including players from several teams.

Singing the Blue

OK, new master contract for all MLB players. No participation in fantasy football leagues.

That, along with auto racing, is just too dangerous.

Badger

Sounds like nothing to me. Two dogs barking at each other in a disagreement about a stick.

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